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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:22 pm 
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I like these rims a lot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

My only hesitation is that to install a set of 15's worries me a bit from a gas mileage and ride quality stand point. I wouldn't mind a tiny bit taller tire than the standard 155R12 so I can get a 22"+ tall tire in the 15.

The sidewall gets considerably shorter with the 15 vs. a 12".

Will gas mileage suffer significantly with the taller, wider, higher rolling resistance tires?

Will the ride become very rough with the shorter sidewall?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:16 pm 
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Depending on how much heavier the new rims are, and their extra size, you could see an actual increase in gas mileage due to a "lower numerically" gear ratio. The ride will become rougher, but your already driving a Metro so you shouldn't be to worried. IMO, I personally would go for 14's in a regular metro, using 185/60R14 rubber.

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I have a set of 15" Motegi MR7's with Toyo T1-R's 195/45/15 which are exactly 22". My rims have an offset of 35mm. My gas milage has stayed about the same, haven't notice any change from my previous 185/60/14 tires. If you do decide to go with these wheels, go with a 195/45/15 tire if your planning on lowering your car, or a 195/50/15 if your not planning to lower your car. I know if I put 195/50/15's onto my rims I would get rubbing on the fender lip. But I don't think that you would get rubbing with either tire choice with those 40mm offset rims. I haven't notice any change in ride quality as well.


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I have 15" Koenig Traffik Rims with 185/45 profile. I also have lowering springs, H&R shock absorbers, polyurathane bushings, and 2 front and 1 rear strut tower braces. The handling is excellent, but the ride is really rough. When you choose to go with a lower profile, you reduce the cushion you have. I would not go with a lower profile than 50 or 55.
BTW your Metro is awesome. I love it. :thumbsup: Could I perhaps persuade you to do a write-up on the conversion for us all in the swap section? :worship:

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i have 195 50 15's . front and rear strut braces and the lower a arm brace, other than a pot hole, i wouldnt know they were on my car. i like them .

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Metro SS,

One thing to remember, if you want to change over from your 12" wheels on your Metro, you should change the brakes to the vert or 95+ style. The lug stud on the 12" brakes have 10mm studs and a odd brake rotor/hub arangement. The brakes from a 95+ or vert have 12mm studs and the studs are longer. Also the rotors are vented and the calipers are bigger.

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i have 195 50 15's . front and rear strut braces and the lower a arm brace, other than a pot hole, i wouldnt know they were on my car. i like them .


Very important point - it really depends on the roads you are going to be travelling on.

I would not run 50's in this part of the world, the roads are just ridiculous - I have a friend bought a used Toyota with 16s and 40's, she was forever in trouble bending the rims and getting flats. Her husband put on 14's, with I believe 60's and solved the problem.


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Metro SS wrote:
I like these rims a lot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

My only hesitation is that to install a set of 15's worries me a bit from a gas mileage and ride quality stand point. I wouldn't mind a tiny bit taller tire than the standard 155R12 so I can get a 22"+ tall tire in the 15.

The sidewall gets considerably shorter with the 15 vs. a 12".

Will gas mileage suffer significantly with the taller, wider, higher rolling resistance tires?

Will the ride become very rough with the shorter sidewall?

TIA,

Roger


Good to see someone with a nice taste in rims. Those are nice an are light.

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Metro SS,

One thing to remember, if you want to change over from your 12" wheels on your Metro, you should change the brakes to the vert or 95+ style. The lug stud on the 12" brakes have 10mm studs and a odd brake rotor/hub arangement. The brakes from a 95+ or vert have 12mm studs and the studs are longer. Also the rotors are vented and the calipers are bigger.


Is there a write up on how to do that and what parts I need? Sounds interesting.

Is there any problem with those wheels with regards to the setup that I have now (stock) or will they work?

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If you are thinking of getting the lightest wheels possible you should look at the Konig Heliums, 10lbs each for 15" wheels! Those are the ones I will hopefully be replacing my 16" wheels for. That or the Konig Holes, 13.5lbs each.

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I love the Koenig Heliums, but they don't make them in 4 x 114, only 4 x 100

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Metro SS wrote:
Is there a write up on how to do that and what parts I need? Sounds interesting.

Is there any problem with those wheels with regards to the setup that I have now (stock) or will they work?


SS,

I just did this mod on my car. I used a 95 Metro 2-door for the front steering knuckles, calipers, rotors, and rear drums. It bolts right on. You do not need to change the rear brake shoes or backing plates. You can also use your stock front axles.

The only problem with your stock set up now and any using other wheels other than the stock 12's, is that your current lug studs are very small and short for the 12" wheels. Switching to the bigger brakes gives you longer studs and a more common 12mm thread.

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i have Konig theory "15 with Turanza ZRi 195 50 15. didnt notice a change in gas mileage or driveability


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I just found out the heliums don't come in our bolt pattern last night too! bummer :(

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