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paposwinger
 Post subject: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:35 am 
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i was looking to upgrade the stability of my forsa and dont know were to start i was thinking maybe some shok absorber, spring, swaybar
but here comes my other question were can i buy these online??? were i come from there is no way to find these parts
thanks everyone

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paposwinger
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:25 pm 
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since no one have any ideas.....how about this sway bar what you guys think will it fit my 85 mk1?

http://suzukird1.netfirms.com//641pro/c ... 61e35e9e55

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suzuki forsa 1985 (SA310)
g13bb swap
GTi flywheel
clutchnet 3 solid puck clutch
clutchnet red pressure plate
honda short shifter> back to stock shifter
short ram intake
baleno 1.6 ecu
custom header with 2" exhaust
GTi front hub and calipers swap
soon mk1 GTi exterior coversion
Image
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Dattman
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:41 am 
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Have a read of some of the sticky's in this forum, basically everything suspension wise will be well past their use by date, before you do anything else go and buy 4 brand new kyb gr2/excel shocks, install them and get a wheel alignment, the difference will astound you.

PS, don't buy anything from Suzuki rd, they talked someone I know into buying 450lb front springs, which would be fine if his swift weighed about 2900-3000lbs, honestly those guys are clueless when it comes to suspension and adding a big heavy front sway bar is going to give you even worse understeer, instability has nothing to do with sway bars, thats an alignment issue.

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paposwinger
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:34 am 
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Dattman wrote:
Have a read of some of the sticky's in this forum, basically everything suspension wise will be well past their use by date, before you do anything else go and buy 4 brand new kyb gr2/excel shocks, install them and get a wheel alignment, the difference will astound you.

PS, don't buy anything from Suzuki rd, they talked someone I know into buying 450lb front springs, which would be fine if his swift weighed about 2900-3000lbs, honestly those guys are clueless when it comes to suspension and adding a big heavy front sway bar is going to give you even worse understeer, instability has nothing to do with sway bars, thats an alignment issue.

thanks man, whats been your experience with the GR2 shock are they worth it?

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g13bb swap
GTi flywheel
clutchnet 3 solid puck clutch
clutchnet red pressure plate
honda short shifter> back to stock shifter
short ram intake
baleno 1.6 ecu
custom header with 2" exhaust
GTi front hub and calipers swap
soon mk1 GTi exterior coversion
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Dattman
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:22 pm 
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paposwinger wrote:
thanks man, whats been your experience with the GR2 shock are they worth it?


Well I'm a Koni guy so I would always recommend Koni's :mrgreen: but the Kybs are by far the best budget shock around, I have had them on my mk1.

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tbirdscott
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:07 pm 
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GR2's are NLA so your SOL there. I looked everywhere this summer for a set for my 87, nobody can get them anymore.

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Dattman
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:17 pm 
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AFAIK they are now called excel G's and are still available as of a few months ago.

http://bdmotorsports.net/index.php?cPath=1_40_96

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paposwinger
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:28 pm 
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Dattman wrote:
AFAIK they are now called excel G's and are still available as of a few months ago.

http://bdmotorsports.net/index.php?cPath=1_40_96

nice page there but my 85 mk1 is leaf spring in the back so are the rear shock the same??
i also noticed they got lowering springs, do they fit my 85 mk1?

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suzuki forsa 1985 (SA310)
g13bb swap
GTi flywheel
clutchnet 3 solid puck clutch
clutchnet red pressure plate
honda short shifter> back to stock shifter
short ram intake
baleno 1.6 ecu
custom header with 2" exhaust
GTi front hub and calipers swap
soon mk1 GTi exterior coversion
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Dattman
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:00 pm 
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Front springs and shocks are the same, don't know about the back, lowering the leafs is easy, lowering blocks are fairly common.

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paposwinger
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Dattman wrote:
Front springs and shocks are the same, don't know about the back, lowering the leafs is easy, lowering blocks are fairly common.

how about the sway bar they got??? i think it fits

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suzuki forsa 1985 (SA310)
g13bb swap
GTi flywheel
clutchnet 3 solid puck clutch
clutchnet red pressure plate
honda short shifter> back to stock shifter
short ram intake
baleno 1.6 ecu
custom header with 2" exhaust
GTi front hub and calipers swap
soon mk1 GTi exterior coversion
Image
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Dattman
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:22 pm 
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Front sway bars will be the same between rear leaf spring mk1 models and rear coil sprung mk1 models, however you don't want to fit a bigger front sway bar onto your car, it will only make your car handle worse.

Sway bars are a fine tuning tool to get the right amount of weight transfer from one side of the car to the other during cornering, and it amazes me that people slap on a big front sway bar and then complain about understeer. :roll:

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paposwinger
 Post subject: Re: 1985 mk1 stability
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:13 pm 
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Dattman wrote:
Front sway bars will be the same between rear leaf spring mk1 models and rear coil sprung mk1 models, however you don't want to fit a bigger front sway bar onto your car, it will only make your car handle worse.

Sway bars are a fine tuning tool to get the right amount of weight transfer from one side of the car to the other during cornering, and it amazes me that people slap on a big front sway bar and then complain about understeer. :roll:

oohh ok then no big ol' sway bar it is thanks for the advise

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suzuki forsa 1985 (SA310)
g13bb swap
GTi flywheel
clutchnet 3 solid puck clutch
clutchnet red pressure plate
honda short shifter> back to stock shifter
short ram intake
baleno 1.6 ecu
custom header with 2" exhaust
GTi front hub and calipers swap
soon mk1 GTi exterior coversion
Image
Top
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