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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:13 pm 
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hi, can anyone tell me what balljoints form another car fit in the front susp arms of a mk2 gti, or atleast a link to where i can get some?, not srd :-P
we cant get them seperatly in the uk and im not paying £90 for a new set of front arms when i can just replace the balljoints

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:26 pm 
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we can't get them seperate in north america either =)
I head Pontiac 6000 (which you guys dont get there) and some generation of the mazda 323 (familia) will work if you do some cutting and welding

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:28 pm 
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Nice 1 mate
plenty of 323s over here, just found some on uk ebay £10 each posted
Im a fabricator by trade so the cutting and welding wont be a problem :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:12 pm 
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the only type of joint that looks like will do the job is to big, all of the rest are the old bolt on types
iv looked on uk,us and aus ebay with no joy, i found pontiac 6000 joints but they are also bolt on
is there a 323 that was only sold in usa which uses these balljoints?? i doubt it
i think im just goin to have to find a bolt on set that will fit in the swift hub carrier
if i beef up the end of the susp arm and bolt the new joints a bit further out i can even get a bit more camber
iv worked it out as about 20mm should give me about 1.5 deg over std

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:13 am 
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iv come to a dead end with the weld in type so im going with either of these, just a bit pricy thats all, better start saving :wink:

http://www.hh-ms.com/database/index.php ... ModelID=13

http://www.compbrake.co.uk/Suspension/R ... d_612.html

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:55 am 
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Gary, I thought the main fitment issue was stud taper and length matching the spindle pinch clamp hole. Someone stateside ID'd a GM FWD press in balljoint with the correct taper. I crossed the app to find out it fits everything gm fwd stateside from mid 1980s to mid 90s including late Fiero. Weld in collar req'd.

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:19 pm 
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The only fiero weld in type ball joint ha a castle nut on top
I think il stick with what iv found
the plan was to extend the susp arm for more camber an weld in some fresh ball joints, but using the bolt on type all I have to do is beef up the susp arm a bit and bolt the joint at whatever length I can use, bearing in mind the d/shaft length ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:35 pm 
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i got some o/e versions of the bolt in types i put in the links (they were for grp a rally cars)
they fit fine on the modded susp arms, all iv got to do is fit a strut assembally minus the spring to my spare chassis to see how much travel i can get out of them
you can see from the pics they have a bit of angle built into them so fingers crossed they will allow the damper to bottom out before the ball pin hits the side of the ball joint housing
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11473969@N02/

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:34 am 
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iv started on modifying the arms to take the nova bolt on joints
they look like shit but they will do the job nicely, just got to strengthen the underneath, bit of hamerite and they are good to go
+20mm on the length, which should give about 1.5deg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11473969@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11473969@N ... otostream/

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:13 pm 
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is shipping really that bad to the UK? These are $34 USD each brand new with ball joint, new bushes and all...?
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1027684
or go to www.rockauto.com and look it up as a 1990 Geo Metro

Part numbers 520109 and 520110 are both sides

I know you have already begun the fabrication process and they look great so far. Just showing you another option..

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:58 pm 
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theres no problem getting the complete arm over here mate
i started out just looking for some replacement weld in b/joints for the 2 spare sets iv found in a garage clear out, then got thinking about extending the arm for more camber, couldnt find a suitable weld in so i started looking for bolt on types that fit the gti hub carrier, i found some from a nova gte, its a small hatch, same size as the swift, similar power etc
so i ended up doing what iv done
iv added 20mm to the length which iv worked out to be about 1.5 deg camber, iv got adjust top mounts so i can adjust the camber/castor from them
also i can fit grpA spec b/joints designed for the nova, doubt i will but its good to know

if anyone does know what weld in type will fit the std arms, im still looking to fix the other set of arms iv got

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:05 am 
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I hadnt thought of the added benefit of extending it to add camber or adjustability. Very cool. Do you have stock ride height/springs?

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:56 pm 
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no, my gti is highly modifyed, im starting to run out of things to do to her, hence this little project

iv strengthend up the underside now
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11473969@N ... hotostream
just going to paint them up over the weekend and get all of the alignment done asap

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:23 pm 
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looks awesome!

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 Post subject: Re: ball joints
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:05 pm 
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These can be quite expensive to replace so it is appealing to replace just the boot with a new one, you can now replace the ball joint. Consider changing the joints as a pair. Clearly, used or worn out parts are a safety issue that must be maintained and fixed instantly.


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