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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:03 am 
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i am the king of free mods<br>i am broke right now and i just bought a 89 gti w/cultus engine<br><br>i am not working so i spend most of my time squeezing as much power out of my car as possible<br><br>i have another gti that i have parked<br>anyway i took the intake rubber of it and i decided to cut it<br>i read somewhere that the closer the air flow meter is to the trottle body the quicker the response<br>well i cut off about 2 inches at the top <br>the hole that the crankcase breather usually goes into is right on top of the throttle body under the clamp<br>you have to use a stainless steel clamp as the stock ones dont cut it<br>i cut the cold start hose a little to match the shorter distance<br>the filter sits perfectly and the air flow meter doesnt bounce too much<br><br>i raised the rubber piece that determines how close the bonnet is shut so there would be more cool air coming in<br><br>oh man!!!!<br>i was shocked i couldnt believe it<br>acceleration is IMMEDIATE!!!<br>i am flying through gears now<br> <br>all i used was a knife!<br>for anyone who has done this please second me<br><br>i am not telling any of my friends, i am not telling anyone in my country<br><br>even my girlfriend noticed the difference as she is now slammed back in her seat instead of gradually eased back as i accelerate<br><br>i put back onh the normal one just to make sure and i rushed home to take it off as acceleration is much more lagging!!!<br><br>this is the best mod i have ever done to this or any car<br>and its free<br><br>see if you can get a old one if you are afraid to do it to yours<br>you wont regret it <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub83.ezboard.com/ujomo2002.showPublicProfile?language=EN>jomo2002</A> at: 7/17/02 8:21:36 am<br></i>


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 11:06 am 
awesome! ill try that tonight, would it be possible to mount the maf almost directly to the throttle body? then have the longer piece of rubber connecting to the filter? <p>racerfoo[image]www.upload.can.com/swiftsig.jpg[/image]</p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 2:44 pm 
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i want to put it almost beside the throttle body but you have to find a way to secure it <br>i want to leave just enough rubber to put the cold start hose in<br>let me know how it goes if you try it<br>spread the word just make sure it doesnt reach back to where i live as i am wopping all the gtis down here and i dont want them to know my secret!!!<br><br>good luck <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 8:19 am 
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is nobody reading this?<br>WAKE UP, THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER. <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 8:53 am 
i did this mod, but havnt really had a chance to test it out....im getting my alignment, pully, and fuel filter done today so i dont think i'll know the effects of the intake mod...but of course everyone should do it anyways, nothing to lose.<br><br>i cut off all the way up to the part where the hose flexes like on flexi straws....its probably 3 or 4 inches shorter. im thinking of doing a cold air intake with the MAF right on the TB...i need to get an adapter for my piping first to fit the maf first <p>racerfoo[image]www.upload.can.com/swiftsig.jpg[/image]</p><i></i>


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 Post subject: how?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 9:08 am 
Do you have pic's so I can see how this is done, cuz I have no Idea what an air flow meter is, thanx. <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: how?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 11:59 am 
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Done this already. <br><br>It is within three inches of the TB unit. However, I am still waiting on the billet TB unit from Bear. <br><br>There is another item I been kicking aroudn and that is the compressor A/C line that is constantly cold no matter if the A/C is running or not. Hookup a Tornado air vain unit with a A/C line running through the middle to cool down the air before entering the TB unit. <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: how?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 3:14 pm 
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i cut mine even shorter today<br>before you try and mount it right besibe the throttle body,you have to put the cold start hose between the air flow meter.<br>i left just enough space for the hose and it is even better<br><br>for the guy who doesnt understand,you say you dont know what a air flow meter is?<br>you have a gti right? <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: how?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 4:39 pm 
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Was that about an inch between the TB and the A/F unit? <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: how?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:29 pm 
smelly:<br><br>The maf or mass air flow sensor aka the air flow meter is a sensor located on the tube leading to the throdle body of your car...you do know what a TB is right? if you still don't understand i can send you pics of a 3cy engine i know you have a gti but it is the same basic concept. <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 10:50 pm 
actully I do have a 3 cyl.<br><br>my e mail is geo045@frontiernet.net <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 4:19 pm 
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can someone send me pics of how or where to cut i don't have any spare parts and don't want to screw this up but i would love to hhear more conformation of this really working and how much difference it really makes but please tell me how to do this properly so i don't have to hunt for a new piece things are hard enough to find for my car as it is ask troy i have a 92 swift gt <br>thanks Dave<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 6:11 pm 
Ihave a three cyl. and its not like a gti there is no mass air flow meter we have throttle body injection speed density? if we have a mass air flow sensor i do not know where it is someone told me it is mounted on the firewall<br>speed density throttler body injection makes more sense? if someone know that would be great.<br>George <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 7:01 pm 
mayhem-<br> i belive that is true but from what i'm told it's not much diffrent, the only sensor that the 3cy has is bolted into the intake housing right on the tb as you already know but it still suposidly holds the same consept, the closer to the actual tb hole the better the acceleration. so in other words us metro owner can't just cut the intake tube and move it up we have to make\fide a custom cover for the intake like dj kos ("see custom intake for 3cy complete") did on his 95 and place the sensor right abouve the tb opening. but to be honest i don't think it would make that much diffrence.<br><br>if we do have a afm it can't be on the fire wall cuz no tubbing goes there and what good is a meter if it an't doing nothing get what i'm sayin. the sensor has to be in the intake tubbing to meter the air flow to the tb. <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 9:25 pm 
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yeah<br>i took mine off<br>i will be putting it back on soon after i have sorted out a couple glitches<br>i wounnt recomend doing it wthout a spare intace hose<br>my friend told me it a long time mod on cars with air flows BUT he warned me that some cars might run rich<br>advancing the timing?<br>im fooling around with that idea to go along with this mod<br> as for explaining exactly how to do this...<br>first cuit the intake hose right before the checkered part to the end that connects to the tb<br>them clamp it to the tb with a good screw clamp tight<br>cut the cold start hose to match<br><br>actually you can cot it any lengh you want<br>start by cutting off a small section at atime and testing the car inbetween so you can feel it gradually getting better<br><br>as i said before the cold start hose has to go between<br>the meter and the tb!!!<br>i tried putting it right beside the tb and the hose in before the filter<br> it doesnt work<br>yeah over <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:19 pm 
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anybody else try it?<br>im getting great results! <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: pic?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:16 pm 
Could you send me a pic to?<br>Me and my friend both got Swift GTi -89's, and that sounds awsome man!<br><br>Heres the mail:<br>brother_David@hotmail.com<br><br>THX M8! <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 7:11 am 
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what pic?<br>dont really know what pic but you should be able to imagine it...<br>cutting off the nearest part to the tb<br>the flexible part <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 11:11 am 
you gotta excuse me jomo, but i dont know what the tb stands for <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> , could someone please write the whole word, so that i can understand it :Ð <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: o
PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 11:17 am 
It stands for Total Bollocks David.<br>Don't waste your time.<br>or your money.<br><br>I. <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 6:37 pm 
it stands for throddle body. the part of the engine that your air hose hooks too <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 9:05 pm 
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waste what money? <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 1:53 pm 
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i just really want to know if this works and if it is a good way of increaseing throttle respone does it affect the way the car warms up cools off you know what i mean just does it work and work right with no ill affects<br>Dave <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 2:32 pm 
ther is not ill effect that i know off and it doesn't effect anything other than the signal the computer gets. any one correct me if i'm wrong but all this mod does is trick the computer into burnning more gas therfore having more acceleration.right.? <p></p><i></i>


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well i dont think it fools the computer and burns more gas<br><br>what i think is this:<br>when the air goes through the air flow meter it takes a while to reach the throttle body<br>therefore if you put the meter close to the tb you get a MUCH quicker response because as soon as the meter gets the reading the air has basically reached the tb and going down the manifold and burned<br>as far as i see it the car burns less gas because there is none wasted<br><br>as for ill effects on the car there is NO way this could affect anything alse<br><br>i have it on/off all the time and i feel the difference every time<br>one thing though RESET THE ECU WHEN YOU DO IT!!! <p></p><i></i>


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