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Author:  Gasoline Fumes [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:37 am ]
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mosier wrote:
When taking the pics step back a little further from the work

:goodpost:
That will help bring things into focus too.

Author:  Lihtan [ Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:04 am ]
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:werd:
This pic was shot by standing above the part, and then zooming in:

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(35mm Pentax Espio instamatic, scanned with HP Scanjet 4C)
Although the camera did have a macro mode, I found it flaky and got better results zooming in from a distance.

This pic was shot by disabling autofocus, then manually focusing. The part was illuminated with an LED flashlight:

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(Sony Handycam Digital 8, imported as a still capture via a USB video importation box)
This camera has a broken shutter button, the only way I can take pictures is to hold the remote infront of the camera, or do a live still capture at the computer.

You can also use a flatbed scanner for photography as well. Most scanners can get a clear image at least a 1/2" off the surface of the glass. Here's one I took:

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("photographed" directly on the surface of an HP ScanJet 4C flatbed scanner)

Flatbed scanner have *insane* resolution (50 meg TIFF files no problem), but poor focal depth. For example I once took a scan with my GSM phone on the scanner, and in the scan, could see the gaps between the pixels on the phone's LCD screen, yet the detail of an ECU circuit board eluded the image sensor, due to the height of the ECU case.

Author:  87t1 [ Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:15 am ]
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Thank you, Gas fumes and Lihtan---

Dattman wrote:
Nice work, but please you're killing us slowly with those photo's, man you really really need to get a decent camera,
I get cross eyed trying to look at those photo's.


I will try to use the suggestions, as I don't want people going cross eyed .:shock: :razz:

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thanks :)

Author:  swifty xxx [ Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:36 am ]
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just a question but can this same idea be used on a 4 cylinder head??

Author:  87t1 [ Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:01 am ]
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:huh: I don't know-
The big problems would be the type of head used, and locating the correct injectors.
Also the 4 cyl. intake manifold may need to be adapted / changed to fit the new fuel rail.

The factory G10 has the injector pads cast in, so the modification is made easier.
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Author:  94GeoMetro [ Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:04 pm ]
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Ok I know you just started this project last month but any updates? :D

Author:  Dattman [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:04 am ]
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I see that you have used an 87t3 fuel rail, well we never got t3's here but it has got me thinking because I saw these V6 vitara/Escudo fuel rails and injectors for sale, I wonder how close they would fit???

Don't flame me for the fuzzy photo, I 'aquired' it to post here :razz:
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Any updates???

Author:  87t1 [ Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:38 pm ]
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Here's the latest installment of the G10 MPFI mod.

(And it all fits under the stock aircleaner) :shock: :D


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The hardest part so far was finding the correct type/size of material for the fuel rail bracket. :razz:




good luck :)

Author:  Dattman [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:28 am ]
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Looking Good! looks like a Z shaped adapter to bolt the rail to the head??? and you found an alloy profile thats the right height??? if we still had karma then I'd dish some out in your direction... :lol:

Author:  87t1 [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:39 am ]
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Zee shape and zee size of zee material used to fabricate zee fuelrail bracket is a big zeecret. :lol:

Author:  KoeGeo [ Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:48 pm ]
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Hey 87!
Has it run yet??Are ya still using the stock TBI fuel pump?Wonder about
the pressure drop with 3 injectors opening at once how the spray
pattern will be affected by the lower pressure...?Let us know when
she lights off!!

Author:  87t1 [ Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:35 pm ]
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Hello KoeGeo,

I am going to use an 01 1.3 16v Swift fuel pump.(originally used with these injectors)
The pump fits in the TBI geo mount and pre-filter sock perfectly. :)

Now I need to find another test car-the original had to be used in a "charity case" type deal 4 days ago. :(

Author:  n1tr0 [ Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:10 am ]
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not to beat you up here, but why not just use a t3 head/intake .. or if you want to go custom, use the intake from a triumph 955 (triple), some rubber hose pieces, and a chopped down stock manifold.

Author:  87t1 [ Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:43 pm ]
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n1tr0 wrote:
not to beat you up here, but why not just use a t3 head/intake .. or if you want to go custom, use the intake from a triumph 955 (triple), some rubber hose pieces, and a chopped down stock manifold.


Hi n1tro,

I am trying to mod the stock TBI G10 (used in lots of cars) with common parts and tools, to make more power and better fuel mileage.
If / when it works, other members could use this information to upgrade their G10 engines with little trouble, other than the tooling required.
My plan is to find another donor car, have the exhaust done in 2" crush bent tubing, and dyno the stock TBI setup. Then I will change
the car over to MPFI, ( 5 min job) and dyno that setup. If everything looks good, one of Mike's cams and a +10 gear will be installed. :thumb2:

The first head is rebuilt stock, and I have another MPFI G10 head completed. (ported and milled for higher compression) :D :D :D
For the high preformance build, I am planning a SuzukiRD header, and a tuned intake (cut down from an 01 16v swift 4 cyl).

All this takes is money, and I'm spending as slow as I can. :lol:

Author:  tuffcarguy [ Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:47 pm ]
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i was looking at a t-3 head today and noticed the area inside the ports, around the injector hole, was blended back towards the valve. like the injector didnt go deep enough to get a good spray pattern without the blending.

so i wondered if you had done this or thought about it at all?

Author:  87t1 [ Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:25 pm ]
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tuffcarguy wrote:
i was looking at a t-3 head today and noticed the area inside the ports, around the injector hole, was blended back towards the valve. like the injector didnt go deep enough to get a good spray pattern without the blending.

so i wondered if you had done this or thought about it at all?


:huh: I think you are talking about the injector spray pattern hitting the sides of the injector pocket.
The next pics show how the jigs and dummy injectors are set up to align the injectors with the head.

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This pic shows the fuel rail with dummy injectors.

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later :)

Author:  87t1 [ Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:08 am ]
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Just a short update, today I bought a 1992 4 door metro, with a 3 cyl, auto and AC. :lol: (The Family Truckster) :lol:



This will be the G10 MPFI test car. :) :shock:

Author:  KoeGeo [ Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:33 pm ]
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Cant wait to get a report!!!!

Author:  Dattman [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:31 am ]
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Any updates yet? :buzz:

Author:  87t1 [ Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:34 pm ]
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Not much of an update, Here is a pic of the new used engine--
Now I will pull the head, drill/cut the injector recesses and install it in the unsuspecting car... :shock:
I will also replace the torque converter seal on the transmission while it is accessable. :)

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Author:  87t1 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:53 pm ]
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I was finally able to modify the used JDM head, using special low cost fixtures. :D

The head has the injector recesses cut and the inner hole is tapped for 1/8 pipe plugs,
if I want to sell the car without the MPFI injection.

Here is a pic of the G10 valve spring compressor and alignment board:

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This pic shows the high dollar rig in a drill press:

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:D

Author:  hybrid metro [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:39 pm ]
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any more updates?

Author:  geo2slow4u [ Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:48 pm ]
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update?

Author:  WiredGuy [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:16 am ]
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Nice project you got there.

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Author:  hybrid metro [ Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:52 pm ]
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you just made a direct port fuel injection. dude that is on the new audi r8 and mazdaspeed 3 wagon. it would be easier to turbo the motor now!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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