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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:02 am 
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hello guys well i got here a TB from a nissan sr20 60mm. and i have this manifold that its already ported out to 60mm so the TB can fit easy. the manifold has short runners also, but i need to port them so they all can be equal.i been trying to find info on the TB mod. on what i have to do .. but didnt get anything that can explain .

ok what will i have to do to make this work? as you seee in the picture when i try to put it in .. i cant fit all the bolts in , will i have to mod this tube or what can i do with it that is making me not fit all the bolts correctly ? here ill put pics up.. any advice will help me a lot thanks guys.

another thing how does the inside of the manifold look like to u guys good??? i need to clean it out .. but other than that you think its good?


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:36 am 
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is this the manifold from suzukird? looks good if you are going the forced induction setup.

the external polished surface will trap heat which is not favored. the 4 x inlets to the head can do with some polishing.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:49 am 
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yea its the one from suzukird .. thanks for that info ill keep in mind that .


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:25 am 
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whould you recommend this manifold for a N/A engine?
As I see it has shorter runners than the Cultus manifold

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:51 am 
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while you have it apart
please measure the TB hole diameters on the front and back sides.

which Nissan did you get the TB off?

hard for me to tell how many mm those holes are off. Generally the solution is to file out the TB until it matches with the threads. If it is too much by hand, a machine shop can help.

I doubt the TB is screwed up. It likely is welding distortion or machining error. Please post this issue in their feedback thread.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:57 am 
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leeye wrote:
the external polished surface will trap heat which is not favored. the 4 x inlets to the head can do with some polishing.


good points.
if you want excellent flow then match the intake, gasket and head holes.
Dremel time !
http://www.dremel.com/Pages/default.aspx

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:03 am 
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The sr20 TB bolt pattern is the same as the standard TB. From the pictures is looks like the coolant pipe is stopping the correct alignment. Cut the damn things off as you wont be using them anyway.

Try this first before going all Conan with the dremel.

Alternatively try rotating it 108 degree so the coolant pipes are on top. This was there should be nothing to foul the alignment.


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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:17 am 
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yup i agree. you either cut off the coolant pipe coz you don't need it or bend it backwards so that it does not obstruct the fitting.

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:28 am 
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we just have the pics
but i dont see the pipe in the way

that manifold hole is way off.
what's so gtikid?

by the way water pipe haters,
it can freeze if FL
he may want some help on cold days.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:41 am 
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xrw44 wrote:
we just have the pics
but i dont see the pipe in the way

that manifold hole is way off.
what's so gtikid?

by the way water pipe haters,
it can freeze if FL
he may want some help on cold days.
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In that case turn it 180 degrees and run it that way. Either way a custom Throw linkage will need to be fabricated.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:39 pm 
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sorry about my english but i run this nissan tb 60mm mod for one year and a halt and i have no problem. i'm from quebec and in winter the tb does'nt frozzed. the collant pipe is cut ner the tb as possible for the look, and need to change the linkage plate from the gti to the new tb. i put the gti tps to. i think i use dremel a little bit to fit it correctly. if you try to start the car and doest run well, check the position of the tps and ajust it with the omhmeter technique. i will try to found some pi of it installated soon.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:53 pm 
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[Would] you recommend this manifold for a N/A engine?
As I see it has shorter runners than the Cultus manifold


Runners that short will hurt your bottom end in N/A applications, because while you may have high flow, you lack the intake air velocity needed for proper low rpm torque. Of course if you're looking for a race application, the shorter the better, hence the ITB's with little to no runner.

This is all just theory, of course, lots of people have good experiences with all types of solutions.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:11 pm 
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for some pic of mine installed
http://lemondedelauto.tripod.com/avendre/tbnissan.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:10 pm 
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hi every1 one again thanks for all the comments , well i been kinda gone , and also my long Axle Shaft broke :cry: but just got it fixed placed a new one and everythng is good to go ... soo the tb fits perfect with this mani i just took a pic and just turned the tb 180 degrees like markimark said to do .. so i did it so u guy can see that it fits perfect..... so i see that morinj04 cut the water pipes and nothin happen to it ... so im thinkin of doing the same thing and just putting the tb normally... so if just cut the pipe and then what can i do with the water hoes? like wat can i put in them to so i dont have to worry about it ..... and are u sure i wont see them?? well the the manifold and the tb are going in with the megasquirt im putting in with the wideband and then after thats done ill be going into the turbo setup. but for now its the mani and the megasquirt.. another thing for the tps how will i adapt that into .. just take the tps from the original mani and adapt it to this new tb ??? well thanks a lot for every1 helpin me .. heres the pics


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:20 pm 
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since the water pipe is obstructing the fitting, try turning the water pipe inlet/outlet to face the TB inlet direction. then u don't have to cut them off.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:34 pm 
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alright hey thanks for the tip im going to go ahead and try that .. any tips for adapting the tps ?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:56 pm 
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turn the throttle body back around so the coolant lines are on the bottom and cut them off you dont need them.

now the TPS should be facing the firewall, the stock TPS from your GTI will bolt straight up.

get rid of the sr20 throttle linkage and put the GTI one on it fits perfectly


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:00 pm 
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also with your water pipe just bypass the TB.

put a new piece of coolant pipe from where the pipe to the TB comes from and run it to the place where it leaves the throttle body and finishes


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:02 am 
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hey guys thanks for all the support . well i actually just bent the coolant pipe a little so i didnt have to cut it now it fits perfect..all im waiting for now is the wideband i just order so when i get that i will be putting the megasquirt and the manifold all at once and ill be putting some pics up.. thanks again guys for everything.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:38 pm 
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i dont think u can turn the throttle body 180 so the collant pipes are faceing down because if that is done were will you bolt the throttle cable to because i am not seeing it at the front of the mani so im guessing its at the back


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