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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:15 pm 
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Toluene as a dence aromatic requires that it be heated to 70 degrees C to vaporize assuming 100% concentration. This is obviously required when using it as a straight fuel, but what about in a 30% toluene/65% gasonline/5% lubricating agent mix? Would a simple coolant jacket fuel line heater suffice? It would probably only generate an increase in temp of around 15-20 degrees, or that I would assume.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:18 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:59 am 
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I have heard of guys running upto 40% toluene without pre-heating but no personal experience with it.


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Well, I built one today anyway. I still have to install a choke for crude temp control. It's an in-line water jacket heater.
We'll see how well it works...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:53 pm 
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Please inform us of your project.I am very interested in the power gain when using toluene.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:43 pm 
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The reasons one would run toluene are rather simple. It's high octane rating (114) and its density. It packs more punch per ml and allows you to run more ignition advance. The only trouble with it is the fact that it needs to be warm to vaporize, it burns rather dry, and it can slowly eat at your rubber fuel lines. (in high concentration) The remedy is to run some form of lubricating agent (trans oil, tepid oil) in with the fuel like a 2-stroke.

This has been around for years.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:58 pm 
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This sounds similar to water/alcohol injection.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:56 am 
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Similar yes, but alcohol's performance breaks down under load due to it's molecular sensitivity. Toluene is more stable, there for more suitable to high loads with greater ignition advance.
Do the research. You'll understand.
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