TeamSwift

Home of the Suzuki mini-compacts ! Your Home for all things Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, Holden Barina, Chevy Sprint, Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Cultus. TeamSwift is a technical performance oriented community!
It is currently Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:04 pm

Underbody braces, turbos and more!

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: 4 Door Convertable?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:33 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:08 pm
Posts: 17
Location: Anaheim, CA
Has anyone attempted to convert a 4 door hatchback into a convertable? I am toying with the idea of doing this next summer, and I figure now is the time to start all of the research. Of course it would need some added frame support. I was also thinking of making a middle roll bar for safety and added stiffness. 8)

Feel free to comment. I would love to hear as many opinions as possible, both for and against. It just seems like it would be great to have a 4 seat convertable.

1991 Geo Metro 4 door hatchback
1.0 L non-turbo
5 speed manual


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:09 am 
Offline
Moderator & FAQ King
Moderator & FAQ King
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:22 pm
Posts: 6460
Location: Vancouver, BC
You're going to have to deal with things like reinforcing the chassis for stiffness and making your own convertible top (or maybe removable hardtop?). But those are only just engineering challenges, I think you should do it! 8)

_________________
jaguar,vettes&sprints wrote:
...can you inlighten me about lihtan's
( miracle pour hole)
maybe a picture Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:35 am 
Offline
smart@ss
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:23 pm
Posts: 2441
Location: Chicago
For what it's worth, I saw a Ford Taurus Sho made into convertible when I was in Florida ( South Beach). It looked different, unique for sure, maybe even weird but I couldn't stop looking at it ( or maybe it was that hot chick with ample bosom :D that was standing right next to it, either way it was an eye catcher :shock: ).

_________________
I miss Jomo BRING JOMO BACK
mojojoeyjojo wrote:
I said it before, I say it again. qwall for prez. :yeahyeah

Image
http://sierraclub.com/exxposeexxon


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:46 am 
Offline
number one!

Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:41 am
Posts: 664
Location: ...
qwall wrote:
For what it's worth, I saw a Ford Taurus Sho made into convertible when I was in Florida ( South Beach). It looked different, unique for sure, maybe even weird but I couldn't stop looking at it ( or maybe it was that hot chick with ample bosom :D that was standing right next to it, either way it was an eye catcher :shock: ).


Auto +1 Karma point for replies that directly refer to ample bosum.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:17 pm
Posts: 3566
Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Might be easier to use the 4-door Swift Sedan as the base


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:08 pm
Posts: 17
Location: Anaheim, CA
Ideally I would like to put 2 bucket seats in the back and use 4-5 point seatbelts for added safety, since I will be driving around with my kids. This is my daily driver, so it needs to be as practical and safe as possible.

As for the hatch, I was thinking that I could redo it so that it comes down like a station wagon door so I can have some lockable storage space. The rest can be used for storing the top.

I was looking at the frame supports the were selling via the "DON'T CLICK THIS LINK!!" link :-P , and I would probably put on of those on plus the various anti sway and support bars mentioned here and there. If things are feeling really good, I might try to set it up for hard top also. What do your guys think about a 2 piece hard top where I could attach the back and front separately with the middle roll bar being the mounting point?

Of course I'll be doing work on the interior and mechanical aspects while I'm doing this. I figure the worst that can happen is that I screw it up royally and have to buy another metro/swift for nothing :D

As far as using the 4 door swift sedan, I'm just trying to use what I have availible. If summer comes and I have one availible, I might do that. But for now, the hatchback is targeted for chopping.

p.s. Oh, I almost forgot. Ample Bosom :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:56 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:08 pm
Posts: 17
Location: Anaheim, CA
I have been looking for more info on custom making a convertible, but my search engine seems to be broken (can't be that I'm searching for the wrong things... lol ).

If anyone has any links to sites with this type of info, please let me know. Any help would truly be appreciated!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:24 am 
Offline
Senior Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:30 pm
Posts: 1706
Location: Rivendell
Put your best foot forward and make a targa top...

then tell everone how it went...
At least you wouldn;t have to worry about engineering issues...

_________________
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.HP is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how much you push the wall out.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:01 am 
Offline
Moderator & FAQ King
Moderator & FAQ King
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:22 pm
Posts: 6460
Location: Vancouver, BC
Lockjaw wrote:
... If things are feeling really good, I might try to set it up for hard top also. What do your guys think about a 2 piece hard top where I could attach the back and front separately with the middle roll bar being the mounting point?..


Swift Targa 8)

_________________
jaguar,vettes&sprints wrote:
...can you inlighten me about lihtan's
( miracle pour hole)
maybe a picture Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:55 pm 
Offline
Suzuki Elder
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:47 pm
Posts: 11675
Location: columbus, ohio
like this?

oh, yeah! AMPLE BOSOM!

_________________
1991 Blue Geo Metro Convertible highly modified 1.0L Turbo3 5 spd. - 1991 Red Geo Metro Convertible customized with a Twincam 5 spd.

My Turbo3 Project
My Cardomain Page -Ol' Blue
My YouTube Channel
My Photo Gallery
SAAB Sonett II


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:03 pm
Posts: 123
Location: Brampton
t3 ragtop wrote:
like this?

oh, yeah! AMPLE BOSOM!


wow i have always thought of making my geo into a truck like that. im impressed!

_________________
92 Geo Metro
81 Chevy Camaro


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:00 am 
Offline
Suzuki Elder
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:47 pm
Posts: 11675
Location: columbus, ohio
although the pickup is just a cute as a speckled pup, it still only has the load capacity of the original car (2 small people and a medium bag of dog food :lol: )

the rear axles are pretty small and will bend if you overtax them.

if your passenger has an AMPLE BOSOM you can only haul a small bag of dogfood. :roll:

_________________
1991 Blue Geo Metro Convertible highly modified 1.0L Turbo3 5 spd. - 1991 Red Geo Metro Convertible customized with a Twincam 5 spd.

My Turbo3 Project
My Cardomain Page -Ol' Blue
My YouTube Channel
My Photo Gallery
SAAB Sonett II


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:17 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:08 pm
Posts: 17
Location: Anaheim, CA
Heh, I like that. Unfortunately, I would have to put the kids in the truck bed, so that wouldn't work (at least not for the police...)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:04 am
Posts: 78
Location: Vancouver, WA
Here's one for the Mk1 crowd:

Image

Brendan


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:19 pm 
Offline
Former TeamSwift Admin
Former TeamSwift Admin
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:58 am
Posts: 8146
Location: Seattle, WA
brmiller wrote:
Here's one for the Mk1 crowd:
Image

that's sweet, add a couple pieces of rectangular tubing for front & rear bumpers and it'd be a zippy version of those old vw golf/rabbit trucks. even better if it was a gti, you could have some fun blasting past those lowrider S-10s and rangers

_________________
'92 Swift GT, '94 Swift GT, '88 Turbo Sprint, '98 Swift ... all sold years ago


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mk2 4-door Vert
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:13 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:52 am
Posts: 33
Today I got a good look at header pieces, etc. for a mk2 vert, and it seems like chopping a 4-door could be relatively easy if one gave it a bit of thought ahead of time.

First off... it's not electronic or anything, so whatever frame and linkage you create, it just has to mate to the windshield correctly, and then you can top it with vinyl (or whatever that stuff is) afterward. Just brainstorming, getting the extra room out of the 4dr setup would probably require adapting something like a Cabriolet top, and mating it with the 2dr header piece. Then, you'll have to adapt the windshield mounts for a 4-door, and pay special attention to where the top mates with the windows. Lots of rubber, probably.

Time-consuming, but doable, methinks.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:19 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 8:44 am
Posts: 44
Location: Powell River, BC
Revived thread!

ellpee wrote:
Put your best foot forward and make a targa top...

then tell everone how it went...
At least you wouldn;t have to worry about engineering issues...


What about one of those soft-top thingers that they put on veedubs back in the day, basically a gigantic sliding fabric sunroof that folded up at the back like a set of roman blinds?

CCC

_________________
"Duct tape is like the force, it has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Targa
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:30 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:52 am
Posts: 33
Isn't that basically what the real swift vert is to start with, a folder-upper targa top? If I remember the header piece, the easiest way to make up the 1ft or so difference in the 4-door body would be to insert a hinged spacer just before the header, where it mates to the canvas. Thus, header mating is unaffected, windshield is unaffected, and the convertible top linkage or whatever it's called, it's unaffected as well.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Targa
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:40 pm 
Offline
Suzuki Elder
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:47 pm
Posts: 11675
Location: columbus, ohio
iuvius wrote:
Isn't that basically what the real swift vert is to start with, a folder-upper targa top?


there are so many engineering differences in the body of the vert that i'd hardly says that it's fair to make that cavalier statement.

the windshield alone is different as are the doors, window mechanisms, inner rockers and floor, b pillars, rear cowl, trunk - you get the point. there are lot's of similarities and the verts are quite happy to wear most of the mechanical parts from a gt, but there are many engineered differences separating the chassis.

i think a 4 door cabriolet would be big fun. :D really old thread.

_________________
1991 Blue Geo Metro Convertible highly modified 1.0L Turbo3 5 spd. - 1991 Red Geo Metro Convertible customized with a Twincam 5 spd.

My Turbo3 Project
My Cardomain Page -Ol' Blue
My YouTube Channel
My Photo Gallery
SAAB Sonett II


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:37 am 
Offline
Village Idiot

Joined: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:34 pm
Posts: 189
Location: florida
i don't know where the orginal form is but i found a geo (1989 sprint)limo!!! :twisted: :twisted:

_________________
nucking futs!

my car is blood thirsty!

GIT-R-DONE


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group