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 Post subject: Neon Console Install
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:43 pm 
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I found hints on teamswift that said this could be done, but not anything specific so I put together a how-to and thought I'd share it :)

So you got a large drink at Taco Bell, and found it won't fit in the factory cup holders... In fact, hardly anything fits properly in the factory cup holders in these cars. And after a long day on the road you may feel fatigued, and would like to rest your right arm on something, but once again the metro fails you... There's no armrest. Here at teamswift.net I found a solution, but there were no real instructions or pictures to go with it, so I thought I'd put one together for everyone.

This is for my 91 vert, but installation should be the same on any 89-91 metro/swift/firefly. The only difference in this and later models is at the bottom where the radio is, they don't have the little glove box. So if you have a '92 or later ignore instructions pertaining to that part. You will end up with a gap there unfortunately.

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Hard to see here but one from a member at teamswift with the later model metro.
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Step one is to go find a console. I went to my local pull-a-part and found several 1995 Neons (showed up as Plymouth not Dodge). You want '95 or earlier, the '96 and later models have an offset park brake location. In the '95 and earlier models I notices 3 variations in design. The particular one I ended up with has oval holes with covers towards the back of the sides(you have to move the seat forward to access these to remove the 2 bolts from each) And the armrest insert has a heavy cast metal sleeve that the plastic part drops into (I left this part at the yard). If you can find one, you want the manual transmission variant, it has the shift boot, and pegs to connect it to on the underside of the console. The automatic variant is exactly the same on the top, but its missing the pegs, and obviously does not come with the shift boot. The whole console cost me $13.

Removal from the Neon:
Push the rubber shift boot(on manual only, not necessary on auto variant) down below the lip around it and the console should lift up once you remove all the screws around the bottom (I think there were only 2 screws at the front(under little round covers by the cupholders, the variant without the side covers has these at the bottom of the cupholders), then the 4 at the back under the side covers and 2 inside the armrest straight down at the bottom, the console without the side covers has 4 at the bottom here).
There are 2 pins holding the shift knob on below the boot, pull the boot down to expose them, pull the plastic tabs away from the sides of the shift rod and the knob will slide up and off.
Then the shift boot, which is attached to a metal bracket can just be pulled up off of the bracket(attached by 2 or 3 push pins).

you should now have a console that looks like this :)
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Note: the side holes variant are not necessary but make lining up with the holes for the seat rails in the metro much easier. Oh yeah, and make sure you grab those 2 side covers too ;)

Once you get your new console home, its time to start dis-assembly of the metro to prepare it for the new console. Remove the seats (2 bolts in front 3 in back). And the center console (yes all of it that touches the floor and the glove box if you have a 89-91) 2 or 3 pieces depending on the year you have.
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And any associated garbage or spatulas you may find.

Next test fit the console to see where it needs to be. I found it had to pretty much be right where I put it. Any further forward and the E-brake hits the top of the brake slot(this can be enlarged really easily to accommodate having to pull the brake higher but I didn't need to) And no further back or the boot would pull the stick shift out of first gear. The shifter does end up just a bit forward of center of the hole when done, but its almost exactly where it was in the Neon as well.
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As you can see, it sits off the floor at the front and back by 1 1/2 - 2" I found that the notch in it already is just about the right height to clear the seat bracket humps and just needs to be extended.

Remove the armrest and inside sleeve and shift boot.
Mark the console for the rails and cut with a dremel or other such plastic cutting device.
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Here are pics and a diagram of my cuts:
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These dimensions are on the inside of the cuts, draw this out, then cut outside the lines.
Front cut:
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Rear cut:
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Also at the back I had to deepen the cut there by 1/2" (just extend the cut, nothing special)
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One more :) the bottom of the armrest insert has 2 or 4 holes (depending on which variant) at the bottom that are on 3/4" long tubes, cut these off flush with the bottom of the insert.

Now when you place the console in the car it should sit like this!
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Now if you have a 89-91 and you want to keep the little glove box thing you need to make one more cut at the front:
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Its 8 3/8" wide at the front and 9 1/8" at the back. The front edge of the cut is as far away from the cup holders as it can be while still being on a level part of the console.

The little box bottom extensions will hit the cup holders beneath the console so cut 1" worth of their length off that end(vertical cut).
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You will also have to move the mounting of this box up slightly. If you look under the dash you will see where the 2 screws connect the box to 2 little rails. Move the box as far up on these rails as you can, and drill new holes. (if you don't the box will not be able to open. the bottom will be barely below the new console :( )

Now to get this all to fit back into the car :die
Pull the E-brake as far up as you can! Put the shift boot on over the shifter Put the glove box in its place, but don't attach it, lower it down till it sits on the floor below where it goes. Put the front of the console in over the glove box, then lower the back over the E-brake(may take some light bending of plastic). Now slide the console back and lower it till it sits where it should. You should now be able to raise the glove box into its place. Secure it with the 2 newly drilled holes.
It should now look like this:
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Fastening everything down...

Pre-drill or use self tapping screws 1 at the bottom of each cupholder to screw down into the center hump.

Locate the side holes for the seat rails at the back, push the console down into the carpet as hard as possible and using a 1/4" (may be tight for the bolts maybe use 3/8?) drill bit, drill holes on each side that line up with the threaded holes.

Install the seats (this is a Bi*&$) That extra 1/16" of plastic makes lining up the seat rails to the threaded holes terrible, just keep prying :) You'll get it eventually.

Now reinstall the armrest and insert. The holes at the front are threaded, but the ones at the hinge(if you got the console with the heavy metal liner) are not so you will need to put something behind it to run the screws into. I used some scrap from the earlier cuts, and plastic glued it behind the holes. Once the glue was dry the screws went right into it. The holes at the bottom are pressed into the carpet, I didn't need any screws in them as the console was plenty tight, and the carpet prevents anything from falling into them so I left them without screws.
There you go! new console all done :) :)
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If your E-brake hits the plastic at the top just remove the insert, cut a bit off and put it back. Check out mjspiess's how-to for later models, and for dealing with the other neon console variant. http://geometroforum.com/topic/2490614/1/#new

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:12 pm 
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Great write up and great job.
Thanks for posting on this.

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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Great right up Thanks for the tips
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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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So I wonder if this wil work with an Automatic?

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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swiftfly wrote:
So I wonder if this wil work with an Automatic?


We'll find out this week... got the center console this weekend from a 1995 neon... the only problem I'm seeing is that since it is an automatic it's going to look kind of ghetto with a shift boot :roll: but i want the damn cup holders and the arm rest...
I need the shift boot to cover the big round hole the console has for the shift and those Autozone/Kregan/Checkers shift boot doesn't work...

I'll be cutting the thing tomorrow to see if it goes in smoothly...

BTW: Hi I'm Gavilan from California and I'm driving a 1989 Geo Metro 4dr LSi with the 1.0L 3 banger... a.k.a. to you guys as the MKII :huh: ... Been trolling the site for about a year and finally joined and I have to say, very informative site!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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I put one in my Geo vert
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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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looks a lot more cleanly installed then mine... 8)

Finally installed it... so it works on the Automatic too... there is a little metal plate that goes down and pushes a button that turns the e-brake light off... I'm just going to put a little bump stop, like the ones you use on drawers so they won't slam wood to wood in the house... This should keep the light off... Kind of crooked since it's not bolted down completely yet... :roll: Also still needs the shift boot... I guess I'm going to have to go to dodge stealership and get it there... :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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Its tough when you have an automatic and you are using a stick shift center console.If there a a way to use the boot? that would be the icing on the cake.It looks good to me!!

It is what it is! the big question is are you happy with it? if you are then go with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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has any one put a neon consol in a 1987 chevy sprint turbo .?

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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how did you rig the neon boot to stay in place? the part that holds it down is part of the neon body and mine moves and falls down when i shift, i tryed to glue it with some aluminum brackets but it just wont hold to the plastic.

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I filled the groove in the rubber with RTV and roughed up the surrounding hard plastic edge, its stayed pretty well.

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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has anyone found out any more details, seems valve are still pretty tight lipped on the subject

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has anyone found out any more details, seems valve are still pretty tight lipped on the subject


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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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ralph, that guy is a effin' spammer. he trolls that type of crap, almost like it's robo generated.

i'm not so sure he's not out to make off with ip addresses so he can send you email about viagra and penis enlargement.

i wish the admin would clip his wings. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Neon Console Install
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Thanks Mcmancuso i will do that when i put it back in the car. :D

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for mounting the boot i just threaded a nut onto the one plastic peg on the underside of the console, seems to be working so far.


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im working on it this weekend, hopefully it works, i have burned through several consoles trying to get them to fit


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