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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:02 pm 
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I am contemplating on putting an AFR gauge on my MK1 sprint. Just wanted to see where everyone else have been installing their gauges. I know pillar pods are a hassle since our A pillar is very then (unless you customize it to make it fit). My current choices are either putting it on the flat dash area, or on the steering column (leaning more towards the steering column). Only concern there is if it would block the view of my tachometer etc. The gauge cups I saw on ebay seem to sit quite high so I am pretty sure it will block off the view. Let me hear any experiences with this. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:13 pm 
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The universal single pillar pod worked quite well for me when
I was just running the boost gauge only. A bit of trimming
got a decent enough fit, and was affixed by one screw. I used
a vacuum cap to cover the screw head for a cleaner look.
Had I kept this as a permanent set up, I would have trimmed
more for a perfect fit. There is a gap at the top, I had filled
it with some weather stripping.

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When I upgraded to the dual pod setup, same deal. Universal
fit ABS plastic housing, cut to fit (carefully, a little bit at a time).
For the gap at the top, I formed a filler piece easily by sanding
a piece of balsa, painting it black and used 2 sided tape to
mount to the housing. (you can't see it very well in this older pic).
For the rough edge that's showing, I used a black strip door
edge protector (not pictured) for a cleaner look. Still used the
single screw mount which is seeming to hold fine as the whole
assembly is not very heavy. This shows the rough installation.

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There's plenty of room to run the wires out the bottom and
feed them through the gap between the pillar and the dash
and there's an empty factory hole in the firewall with a grommet
right above the master cylinder that's plenty big to run enough
wires for at least 2 guages. The fusebox is right there too, if you
need power you can use a fused tap, I ended up taking power
from the rear defroster circuit as mine's non functional at the
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:55 pm 
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Hey JamalSpelling, I had a feeling you would be one of the first to respond lol. Pillar pods do look neat, although another issue that I may then face is the fact that my car is street parked in NY (i.e. pillar pods are more eye catching and who knows who will break into the car :shock: . Steering column areas seem a little less discrete. Then again I could just be a paranoid...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:37 pm 
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There's definately much less unrecoverable interiro damage due to mounting
when attached to the pillar.

I've considered everything from sinking them in the dash above the glovebox and
mounting them in the unused switch plates area ( rear defroster switch).

For form and function, I prefer the pillar, and also least distance your eyes
stray from the road when you need them there.

If you use a sunscreen, (as well you should anyway),
they become much less obvious.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:04 am 
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mount gauges everywhere! =)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:44 am 
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I was very happy how my guage pod turned out.
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It started out as this and I had to cut about 30 or 40% of the back and 80% or so of the sides but it fit perfect. I like the hooded pod because it kind of goes with the cluster. I have painted the hooded lip black to match the cluster since I took these pics. I originally was going to have it sit on top of that recessed area on the dash but I tried to make it perfect when I had it pretty damn close and cut too much. Luckily the way I cut it put it inside snugly and at the perfect viewing angle for how close I sit to the steering wheel. Then we used 3M's plastic repair and bonded it to the dash, sprayed a few coats of SEM's spray-on texture stuff on it until it was pretty close to the dash, and painted the whole dash. It didn't come out completely perfect but it looks pretty good. It looks even better with the gauges in it. All three digital AEM gauges. Wideband, TRU-Boost, and oil pressure. I thought I had a pic with the gauges in it but I can't find it. I'll take one the next time I visit it at the shop.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:55 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:15 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:41 am 
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Oh wow these inputs are great! The triple dash one really does look good and "stock-ish" (kinda like the WRX). As for the pillar pod, that was my very first choice, but right now I feel it might be attracting too much attention, both from robbers and cops lol. They will pull you over for anything. I like what JV&S did. For the AFR gauge, what type of mount did you use? I just ordered a gauge cup holder, going to try working with that preferably on the steering column. Again my concern is not being able to see anything behind it. When I got the car it already had the area above the glove compartment cut out for a boost gauge. IF it was not already so, I would have probably gone with a dual pillar pod. I like the location, but hate it in terms o actually viewing it. Half contemplating on getting a 52mm clock and sticking it in there, and then putting the boost and AFR gauge somewhere like a dual pillar pod. Till then, I will work around the steering column. This is where the boost gauge is for now...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:15 am 
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How did you manage to put the center gauge with the hazard light switch sitting there?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:33 pm 
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meenhaj wrote:
How did you manage to put the center gauge with the hazard light switch sitting there?


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I liked them on top........jv&s

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I used the cheep little "L" bracket that came with the gages and they are mounted just infont of the gage cluster behind the haz switch there is about 3" shelve there the little air hose for the boost gage made an "S" and went down under the wiper swtch asmby in the corner there is a small hole if you look under the swtch were the shelve screws into the dash (2 screws 1 on each side undernieth)
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That way when I put it back to stock I could get another stock gage cluster seround
(black ring that has the switches in it) but the holes were so small and not very noticable i just left the ring intact ...
It's the kids car now ..without the goodies and he's fine with the 4 tiny 1/8 holes in the seround
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I was going for the down low style
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You start mounting gages ontop the dash people start looking twice through widows inside of your car
and thats ok........ but not for me..................jv&s
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the 3 banger isn't at all a "grenade." it's a tough little son of a bitch doing a big job. respect it.
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I didn't save anything.Vehicles are to me, like little boys are to Tommy.Toys to be abused for my own personal pleasure.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:31 pm 
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good point, scotty, about mounting gauges on the dash where rats and scoundrels can see them. i have pretty secure parking at work, guards and cameras, so i'm not worried when i leave a car there. my colt acp has me pretty secure at the house. :twisted:

i don't usually get too far away from ol' blue when i'm out and about. it's not like i drive that car to the grocery store or anything. :-P

since my car is pretty much a test mule, i wanted the gauges up where i could see them easily while i'm piloting the rocket ship. :lol: after i have all the kinks worked out, the next megasquirted turbo3 car i build will lose most of the gauges. i'll keep the boost and afr, move the oil pressure to the megasquirt for display on the laptop screen, and lose the oil temp, fuel pressure, and battery voltage gauges.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:12 pm 
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Rich you were not who I was thinking about when i posted that......
I did see your get up though and if i didn't know you in a farway kind of way looking at "Ol Blue's cockpit i would swear you were trying to build some kind of space vehicle.......I,KID...I KID.!
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I was thinking when I pass a wall-mart and see the JDM boys hondas/mazda/Toyota mostly you know the ones purple hoods,chopped springs, 18" hoops,trash can size tail pipes and a handfull of gages hanging off the dash along with the covedent 8" tach w/shift lights,top and center.....Less is more ...and this coming from a guy who would kill for a mid-wing for my MK2 SSGT.........
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t3 ragtop wrote:
the 3 banger isn't at all a "grenade." it's a tough little son of a bitch doing a big job. respect it.
suprf1y wrote:
I didn't save anything.Vehicles are to me, like little boys are to Tommy.Toys to be abused for my own personal pleasure.
jrjd wrote:
"Driving a Swift GTi is like driving a bike in your house".


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:55 pm 
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t3 ragtop wrote:
mount gauges everywhere! =)
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I must admit for some weird reason I actually like this "cockpit" look lol.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:52 pm 
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meenhaj wrote:
t3 ragtop wrote:
mount gauges everywhere! =)
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I must admit for some weird reason I actually like this "cockpit" look lol.

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it's the white gage faces they make it pop .............
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Yo Old man your fluid levels are low---<:|} looks like you needs some rocket fuel and some lube.!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:30 pm 
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meenhaj wrote:
t3 ragtop wrote:
mount gauges everywhere! =)
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I must admit for some weird reason I actually like this "cockpit" look lol.
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I noticed you have the MK2 ejection botton,s control were you push the botton's in and botton,s eject themselves
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I noticed you speed indicator only goes to 110mph thats a joke right.?
for the amount of time and money you've got in her 110mph must be more of a guide then the max right.?
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Were the flux capcitor
Oh there it is in the back.......NICE.!
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Wait.....Jigawhat.?
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t3 ragtop wrote:
the 3 banger isn't at all a "grenade." it's a tough little son of a bitch doing a big job. respect it.
suprf1y wrote:
I didn't save anything.Vehicles are to me, like little boys are to Tommy.Toys to be abused for my own personal pleasure.
jrjd wrote:
"Driving a Swift GTi is like driving a bike in your house".


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:28 pm 
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I've actually been waiting to hear back from t3 ragtop LOL

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:50 pm 
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Probably listen to his other cronie here on teamswift and got all spooled up and is mad wont post
Doesn't like the poke'n.?..
Or just to danm Biz-E.?
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Were probably looking at a dead post till you post pictures of your gage install
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t3 ragtop wrote:
the 3 banger isn't at all a "grenade." it's a tough little son of a bitch doing a big job. respect it.
suprf1y wrote:
I didn't save anything.Vehicles are to me, like little boys are to Tommy.Toys to be abused for my own personal pleasure.
jrjd wrote:
"Driving a Swift GTi is like driving a bike in your house".


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:01 pm 
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Bought all the parts, just waiting for them to be shipped to my place, then install..then pic posting time!!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:05 pm 
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T3 RagTop, Your setup looks more like a plane cockpit. I'm so jealous :mrgreen:
You guys with all the turbos get to have all the cool gauges.
What kind would be useful and easy to install on a non turbo?
Ya'll got me gauge crazy now.


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jrockflimflam wrote:
T3 RagTop, Your setup looks more like a plane cockpit. I'm so jealous :mrgreen:
You guys with all the turbos get to have all the cool gauges.
What kind would be useful and easy to install on a non turbo?
Ya'll got me gauge crazy now.


You can get a vacuum gauge and maybe an afr gauge if you wish. I still use my vacum/boost gauge as a "mpg indicator" to get good fuel economy lol...just keep your vacuum high.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:43 pm 
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meenhaj wrote:
jrockflimflam wrote:
T3 RagTop, Your setup looks more like a plane cockpit. I'm so jealous :mrgreen:
You guys with all the turbos get to have all the cool gauges.
What kind would be useful and easy to install on a non turbo?
Ya'll got me gauge crazy now.


You can get a vacuum gauge and maybe an afr gauge if you wish. I still use my vacum/boost gauge as a "mpg indicator" to get good fuel economy lol...just keep your vacuum high.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:21 pm 
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I finally have it installed! Well not quite the whole thing, have yet to get the bung welded for the O2 sensor but here is where my gauge is going to be now :D

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This location does not sacrifice the view of the speedometer, indicator lights etc..but at the same time allows the gauge to be in full view whilst driving.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:22 am 
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yingxuy wrote:
You get all of the turbocharger has a cool instrument. Will be useful, easy to install, non-turbo what kind?

Yes. It's quite a non turbo. What kind do you have? Any luck on getting me some wedding cufflinks?


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