TeamSwift

Home of the Suzuki mini-compacts ! Your Home for all things Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, Holden Barina, Chevy Sprint, Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Cultus. TeamSwift is a technical performance oriented community!
It is currently Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:10 pm

Underbody braces, turbos and more!

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:53 pm
Posts: 290
Location: Grand Island NY
has anyone used the parcel shelf to mount an amp and sub or any other sort of combinations of speakers?

I was going to build a fiberglass foam core cuz i figured it would be stronger than the stock parcel shelf.

any ideas? pics? or words of wisdom from anyone whos tried this?

James

_________________
<a href="http://www.BannerBreak.com/"><img src="http://10.UploadMirror.com/uploaded/7/549/banner_break_02_08_2007_17_01_41_54321.gif" width="468" height="60" border="0" alt=""></a><br><a>
94 swift GT
87 turbo sprint project car
95 tracker
94 metro xfi

<a href="http://www.last.fm/user/jamesissweet/?chartstyle=basicrt10"><img src="http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jamesissweet.gif" border="0"></a>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:47 pm
Posts: 1543
Location: burlington,ontario
lost of people have mounted 6x9s and other speakers to it, i think i sun would be a bit to much weight for it. you could probably wount your amp up there for easy access to it, dont know how it would like sitting in the sun there though.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:00 pm 
Offline
King of Pompous
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2001 4:22 pm
Posts: 5596
Location: Ottawa ONT.
Even 6.5"-6x9's will cause it to sag if it isn't reinforced. After you've reinforced the shelf...you need to reinforce the plastic panels holding it up :P.

_________________
LNLC Founding Member

FAKE FRIENDS: Never ask for food.
REAL FRIENDS: Is the reason you have no food.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:53 pm
Posts: 290
Location: Grand Island NY
m wrote:
Even 6.5"-6x9's will cause it to sag if it isn't reinforced. After you've reinforced the shelf...you need to reinforce the plastic panels holding it up :P.


that was the plan, i think a foam core fiberglass shelf would be pretty strong with minimal reinforcement, maybe a few ribs or something.

but the hard part would definitely be making sure the plastic that holds the shelf is strong enuff....

anybody got any pics for some brainstorming?

_________________
<a href="http://www.BannerBreak.com/"><img src="http://10.UploadMirror.com/uploaded/7/549/banner_break_02_08_2007_17_01_41_54321.gif" width="468" height="60" border="0" alt=""></a><br><a>
94 swift GT
87 turbo sprint project car
95 tracker
94 metro xfi

<a href="http://www.last.fm/user/jamesissweet/?chartstyle=basicrt10"><img src="http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jamesissweet.gif" border="0"></a>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:19 am 
Offline
King of Pompous
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2001 4:22 pm
Posts: 5596
Location: Ottawa ONT.
You can use the factory shelf and fiberglass from underneath to reinforce it some. Use a couple of pieces of 1/4" rope on the underside and cover them with the fiberglass. That will make them into reinforcement ribs and they don't weigh much at all. You could also use dowel but obviously it won't bend around corners like the rope will.

_________________
LNLC Founding Member

FAKE FRIENDS: Never ask for food.
REAL FRIENDS: Is the reason you have no food.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:53 pm
Posts: 290
Location: Grand Island NY
m wrote:
You can use the factory shelf and fiberglass from underneath to reinforce it some. Use a couple of pieces of 1/4" rope on the underside and cover them with the fiberglass. That will make them into reinforcement ribs and they don't weigh much at all. You could also use dowel but obviously it won't bend around corners like the rope will.


i would much rather fab up a parcel shelf using the factory one i have as a guide, i think a fiberglass one painted to match the car would be pretty sweet.

and if im building one from scratch i dont see why making up some sort of reinforcement o the bottom out of more foam wouldnt be a problem.

we buy alot of foam for fixing holes in boats etc so i know that it would be more than strong enuff and i know how to work with it.

_________________
<a href="http://www.BannerBreak.com/"><img src="http://10.UploadMirror.com/uploaded/7/549/banner_break_02_08_2007_17_01_41_54321.gif" width="468" height="60" border="0" alt=""></a><br><a>
94 swift GT
87 turbo sprint project car
95 tracker
94 metro xfi

<a href="http://www.last.fm/user/jamesissweet/?chartstyle=basicrt10"><img src="http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jamesissweet.gif" border="0"></a>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:41 pm 
Offline
King of Pompous
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2001 4:22 pm
Posts: 5596
Location: Ottawa ONT.
Ahhh IC what your saying now. I thought you wanted to reinforce the factory piece with foam and glass. By all means if your starting from scratch use the foam to make your reinforcements. I have bought sheets of styrofoam insulation and cut them to the shape I wanted using a rasp and knife and then covered it with glass. It was brutaly strong and weighed nothing.

_________________
LNLC Founding Member

FAKE FRIENDS: Never ask for food.
REAL FRIENDS: Is the reason you have no food.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:53 pm
Posts: 290
Location: Grand Island NY
m wrote:
Ahhh IC what your saying now. I thought you wanted to reinforce the factory piece with foam and glass. By all means if your starting from scratch use the foam to make your reinforcements. I have bought sheets of styrofoam insulation and cut them to the shape I wanted using a rasp and knife and then covered it with glass. It was brutaly strong and weighed nothing.


styrofoam insulation eh? i guess the marine grade foam they use to make boats would be a bit of overkill then i guess lol.

_________________
<a href="http://www.BannerBreak.com/"><img src="http://10.UploadMirror.com/uploaded/7/549/banner_break_02_08_2007_17_01_41_54321.gif" width="468" height="60" border="0" alt=""></a><br><a>
94 swift GT
87 turbo sprint project car
95 tracker
94 metro xfi

<a href="http://www.last.fm/user/jamesissweet/?chartstyle=basicrt10"><img src="http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jamesissweet.gif" border="0"></a>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:51 pm 
Offline
King of Pompous
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2001 4:22 pm
Posts: 5596
Location: Ottawa ONT.
Depends what your doing I guess. In my case it wasn't being made to hold up a lot of weight. In your case I would want something a little more rigid as a core or a thicker glass layer.

_________________
LNLC Founding Member

FAKE FRIENDS: Never ask for food.
REAL FRIENDS: Is the reason you have no food.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:53 pm
Posts: 290
Location: Grand Island NY
well im thinking at least a 10 inch sub and possibly an amp or possibly mount the amp on the floor in the back above the spare tire OR on the back of the seat.

_________________
<a href="http://www.BannerBreak.com/"><img src="http://10.UploadMirror.com/uploaded/7/549/banner_break_02_08_2007_17_01_41_54321.gif" width="468" height="60" border="0" alt=""></a><br><a>
94 swift GT
87 turbo sprint project car
95 tracker
94 metro xfi

<a href="http://www.last.fm/user/jamesissweet/?chartstyle=basicrt10"><img src="http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jamesissweet.gif" border="0"></a>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:01 pm 
Offline
King of Pompous
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2001 4:22 pm
Posts: 5596
Location: Ottawa ONT.
I think you need a lot of engineering to build up the shelf to hold a sub (assuming its in an enclosure) and amp. I suppose you could set it up free air to lose the weight of the enclosure but you need to seal up the area under the parcel shelf or you'll have cancellation.

_________________
LNLC Founding Member

FAKE FRIENDS: Never ask for food.
REAL FRIENDS: Is the reason you have no food.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:00 am
Posts: 89
i just made mine out of 10mm ply with 2 pine ribs, holds 2 6x9's perfectly, just spray painted black for now, will cover with carpet later.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group