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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:32 pm 
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ive been away from the site for a long time but ive still kept up the swift anyway these a picof what ive done so far on my monster install. 8)
thers more oic in my album


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WOW!!! Awesome pics ;)

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go here to see more http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/swifttwincam/my_photos


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Looks good. What kind of dampening did you use?

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Dude thats some crazy sound deadening!!! but why the floor, i can't see much need for it, even if you are running a SPL setup?

I'm guessing it some kind of bitumen ( spelling? ) paint, am i right?

Looks like you've still got heaps of work to do, got wire everywere!!!!

Boot and pods look really good so far :P

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Hertz: Doing the floor actualy helps heaps for road noise. I know the factory carpet and sound deadening does it but there is a LOT of metal in there that resonates.

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How can the floor pan resonate? it's one large thick piece of metal, you would need heaps of power to get that thing rattleing, and even if you did heaps of other stuff would before the floor did, and even then you wouldn't be able to hear it, becasue, one, the music would be to loud, and two, other parts of the car would vibrate louder than the floor.

The factory sound deadening amd carpet is enough.

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The sound deadening would be there to kill road noise. Pull your carpet up and knock on the floor a bit...it's pretty thin if you ask me. If I wasn't concerned about weight in my car I would do the floor, roof and inside of the 1/4 panels in addition to regular stuff. Nothing like having a quiet car. Makes everyhthing sound better and you don't need the volume up as loud to hear it well.

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Yes i agree that adding sound deadening to that part of the floor will kill SOME road noice but not all, for example, i have my whole boot sound deadened every panal and bolt, and i still hear my performance exhaust and my tires still ( but my tires arn't the best quality, and are noisey ), and i don't think one layer of thin paint will do much, it will do a little, but i don't think he will get the results his expecting.

If you look at higher class cars BMW's, mercades, they have layers a couple of mm thick over every panal, and these cars are wisper quiet. maybe if he used sound deading mat, thats at least a couple of mm think he would of achieved the results he was after. Either that he could do an extra layer or two of paint.

You should also consider with all that extra space taken up, by the paint, will all t he parts go togther again, since you have now raised the floor level my a 1mm or 2.

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Oh I agree with you. It has to be thicker than a coat of paint. I thought you were asking why to put sound deadener on the floor in general. I can get brush on deadener that will cure up to 2mm thick. Mat can also be put on thick....some of which has an alluminum layer to help too. It all adds a hefty bit of weight though.

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true that, it is quite heavy, i added an extra 20 kilos to my boot because of it. With my whole boot install, it lowered my suspension by 5mm on my performance springs!!!

The sound deadening mat i used did have an aluminum backing, but why does that make a difference?

I too used think sound deadening paint, it was from 'g-spot', and it dries to about 2mm as well, smells bloody funky but!!!!

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The alluminum backing was originaly intended for stuff like firewalls where you would get some heat radiation. It helped cool a bit. Funny thing is, people noticed that it worked well to help kill the sound even more than the normal mat. Alluminum is soft enough to absorbe a small amount of sound but the biggest killer is the tar based substance underneath. Sound deadening works by mass to lower the resonant frequency of panels. Alluminum just helps a bit more.

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Where do you get the sound deadening material from? I am in search of a paintable type. What is the cost, and how thick does it apply?

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You can get Edead v.3.0 from Elemental Designs. It's about $50 a gallon.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/ep2/edead.htm

It's at the bottom of the page.

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Have you ever seen Quiet Car? It seems to be pretty good. Any Opinions?

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I don't think I have. I haven't used liquid deadeners very much. Still like the normal stuff. Do you have a link?

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http://www.quietcar.net

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Yeah, looks like the same type of stuff all the other ones are. My only skepticism is that I've never heard it mentioned on any audio boards before. Of course, I don't expect to have heard of everything out there ;). It's $59 a gallon though so I think I would save the $10 and buy from eD. I have heard great stuff about this one and that makes me more confident than using something I've never heard of. JMO

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mmmmm...yeah i was just looking at that 'quiet car' site, and it tells you can spray this with a compressed air gun, which sounds good, but wouldn't it have to be really thin to not get jammed up inside the gun? And if it's really thin, that defeats the purpose of having any sound deadening, maybe you have to do several coats or something.

All the sound deadening paint i've seen is really thick, and you need a big ass brush to apply it.

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You can get a nozzle with a larger opening in the tip that lets the thicker stuff through.

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the sound damping paint and mat does make quite a diff much less road noise.
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heres pics of my install so far 8)


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You can get a nozzle with a larger opening in the tip that lets the thicker stuff through.


yea ive seen them at some canadian tire stores there for shooting undercoating they work well just make sure to clean them VERY well after each use :P

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