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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:03 pm 
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Unfortunately pretty busy with family and racing so haven't been able to post much. I switched mid season from the Honda civic with 1.8 vtec to my swift gt for racing the dirt oval series here (northern alberta ministocks if you want to google it or join on Facebook for pics and videos of some racing).
The swift has proven a lot faster than myself or the other racers expected. It corners like mad, and pulls really hard down the straights! The light weight really has to help, it's easier to drive than the civic (we have a weight rule, and the civic has to weigh minimum 2380, the swift can be 1690 but I haven't gotten it that low). The civic is kind of a 'banzai' car to drive, drifts the rear around corner and just makes a ton of power but less controllable. The swift can run low, high, or mid corner and keep up, even with having to change lanes to avoid traffic.
Haven't finished getting gearing right yet, didn't turn on my shift light at 7500 last race, so i will be running smaller race tires soon. Leaving the corner with enough rpm is pretty critical I've found so you are pulling hard immediately.
The next issue is that is pretty scary if track is rough, civic would float the rear over bumps where the swift feels like its gonna roll! Hoping that a bit more spring in the right front will help that a bit.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:27 pm 
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Wonderful...

Why not put the MK3 and MK4/5 LCA on your gti (MK3 on left and MK5 on right side IF you turn the car to left) then stiff the spring by cut MK4/5 spring and finally add the double thickest sway bars for rear.

Get AWD from the import if possible.

Oh by the way... Honda models never be excellent in handling... just power to ratio weight. (Awesome engine in the shitty box :roll: )

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:54 pm 
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That's very close to what my plans are to try for the suspension setup. The added width will help. The car was a rally car previously, so it does have some type of heavier springs and has adjustable struts all around(not sure what brand they are, hard to read markings.
Awd isn't an option, it's against the rules.
Can't really agree with you on the Honda not handling, take a look at the front suspension on a 88-2000 civic, it's a wicked strong setup that works great on pavement and dirt. I think it's better than macpherson struts myself. The rear isn't anything special though, but worked well for me.
Suzuki wins the award for unique and fun on the racetrack around, there's no question about that!!

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1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:26 pm 
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I worked on vary Honda models included Accords and Fits... they have terrible suspension... because they are designed for city purpose... smooth and quiet... not for fun. ;\


I owned 93 Honda Accord EX (lower) and the front suspension seems very similar to 88-00 civic. It (factory-made) was too heavy and strong than swift as I agreed... Anyhow... I believe the swift's geometric of suspension is better while turning.

Anyway we should not discuss about Honda. ;p

Forward looking to your swift GTi project here.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:04 pm 
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Great stuff for finally taking the plunge, hard to step out of proven package and start over with something else, especially when no one else is running that car. 8)


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