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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:59 pm 
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As it states this is a genuine ECU that was sold by Knight Sports. I paid two unborns and a sister-in-law to get this. I haven't had a desire yet to use this because, well, I haven't gotten motivated in over 4 years to rebuild my chariot.

My loss is your gain (well the sister-in-law wasn't a loss :lol: :lol: ).

$250. Buyer pays USPS Priority Mail Insured shipping of $15 anywhere in the US (2-3 day delivery). Outside of the US, please check with your local post. I will only ship worldwide with USPS Ground to save the buyer money unless otherwise requested. Shipping from 99352.
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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:50 pm 
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What year / motor ?


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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:03 pm 
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larry griffith wrote:
What year / motor ?

Mk2 / Mk3 1.3 DOHC

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You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

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An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
1996 Geo Metro (Stocker)
1999 Suzuki 1.6 Esteem (Baleno) Wagon (Sleeper creeper)


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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:31 pm 
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Best offers?

I hear crickets........

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Us swift people are a rare breed.

pacapo wrote:
You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

JVS wrote:
We (the Suzuki enthusiast) are Dinosaurs.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
1996 Geo Metro (Stocker)
1999 Suzuki 1.6 Esteem (Baleno) Wagon (Sleeper creeper)


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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:41 pm 
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For NA setup or turbo charged? I have never heard of that ECU.


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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:16 pm 
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What are the specs for that ecu? What mods need to be done to the engine to work with this ecu?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:07 pm 
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What are the specs for that ecu? What mods need to be done to the engine to work with this ecu?


So this is where I draw a blank stare. I bought this from leeye and at one point I had the specs from Knight Sports by contacting them on their website. This is what I do know. It's for the 1.3 DOHC NA car. Beyond that IDK. Help me out. Do I send them the unit back and ask what the specs are for this? What numbers do I provide.


I bought this obviously when I had more money than brains as I wanted to build up a DOHC engine.

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pacapo wrote:
You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

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An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:28 pm 
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These are a JDM ECU, they are a reputable company but they havn't been made for... a long time. No way to find out specs, assume it just as listed with 2 degrees more ignition everywhere and 5% less fuel. :)

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I'm tempted. If you have it a month from now I will be sending you a PM.


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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:13 pm 
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BV1 wrote:
These are a JDM ECU, they are a reputable company but they havn't been made for... a long time. No way to find out specs, assume it just as listed with 2 degrees more ignition everywhere and 5% less fuel. :)

Steve


You are correct. These are for the Cultus. I did get a brief answer from a rep at Knight Sports as I queried them on their website. I'm waiting for a detailed sheet if one is still available. As well, another gentleman over on Redline said he knows of another one being used on a track car but it's been a while since he's seen the car.

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clinty wrote:
Us swift people are a rare breed.

pacapo wrote:
You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

JVS wrote:
We (the Suzuki enthusiast) are Dinosaurs.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
1996 Geo Metro (Stocker)
1999 Suzuki 1.6 Esteem (Baleno) Wagon (Sleeper creeper)


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 Post subject: Re: Knight Sports ECU
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:40 pm 
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If they are for Cultus, it is odd that they are built on a US-spec ECU with no knock sensor control. I think what you really mean is that the ECU may have been chipped to support Cultus engine specs, i.e. high compression pistons/intake/header on the US ECU.

I doubt this is anything more than a chipped ecu and not knowing for sure what it is tuned for does not make it any more valuable. That being said, if it was chipped the "right way" by soldering in a socket for the aftermarket chip, then there is value in that, as getting someone to do that for you is not necessarily easy and ECUs don't grow on trees. A socketed ECU can be tuned with an emulator or the chip can be swapped for a known tune that works for your motor--or you can try it like it is and see if it works for you first (get a wideband.....).

You should take off the covers and post pictures of the inside 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:27 pm 
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Hmmm....I've never seen an I-2 in a USA Mk2/3. Anybody? F-3 but not this.

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clinty wrote:
Us swift people are a rare breed.

pacapo wrote:
You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

JVS wrote:
We (the Suzuki enthusiast) are Dinosaurs.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
1996 Geo Metro (Stocker)
1999 Suzuki 1.6 Esteem (Baleno) Wagon (Sleeper creeper)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:49 pm 
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So I'm not one to ever rip into my Mac to see how it's built but I did what I thought would be the right thing. I broke into the case of this (US model? ECU).
Here is the results: Diodes and chips. Let the electronics nerds tell me...
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Now if this is just a chip change then why on God's green earth does this large company sell them for an arm and a leg?


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clinty wrote:
Us swift people are a rare breed.

pacapo wrote:
You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

JVS wrote:
We (the Suzuki enthusiast) are Dinosaurs.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
1996 Geo Metro (Stocker)
1999 Suzuki 1.6 Esteem (Baleno) Wagon (Sleeper creeper)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:45 pm 
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I have this F-3 type in my 1989 GTi

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clinty wrote:
Us swift people are a rare breed.

pacapo wrote:
You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

JVS wrote:
We (the Suzuki enthusiast) are Dinosaurs.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
1996 Geo Metro (Stocker)
1999 Suzuki 1.6 Esteem (Baleno) Wagon (Sleeper creeper)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:29 am 
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Swifterthanu,

Thanks for posting the pictures!

F3 is the 89-90 Mk2 ECU, I2 is the 91-13 Mk3 ECU (There is also I6, which is Federal ECU for 1994 only).

I4 and F6 are Cultus ECUS :D

The I2 is the most desirable Federal ECU because it has slightly upgraded hardware from the Mk2 and has slightly more agressive timing maps. They are dyno proven to make a couple more HP than the earlier models. Also it is socketed, so you can use the Knight chip that's in the socket, or pry it out and put any other chip in it, the work is already done.

Or use it with an Ostrich Emulator and tune it however you like 8)

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An OEM ecu probably wasn't cheap and they put in the socket and likely tested it first, so I don't know what an arm-and-a-leg is but it was probably worth it. It says right on the case what it does,

which is precisely what you can alter with a chip:

Revlimiter cut
Speedlimiter cut
Ignition Timing
A/F Setting

Oh wait, there's no speedlimiter, so I don't know what that's all about. :huh: but then again Gharndi still wants $200 for his chips. I think all of the good ones cost over 100 back in the day. A good used ECU will also set you back at least 100 from most sources.

Chips are pretty much obsolete, but not that many people know you can use an emulator on an OEM ecu for the same price and work with a whole library of tunes that you can edit to suit your modifications. The OEM ecu also has limitations :blackeye:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:19 am 
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An OEM ecu probably wasn't cheap :blackeye:
No but the Sister - in -Law was that I gave up for this. Well, she's on to greener pastures. :lol: :lol:

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Us swift people are a rare breed.

pacapo wrote:
You get an old one, clean it up, put it back to specs and take care of it, and she'll last for years.

JVS wrote:
We (the Suzuki enthusiast) are Dinosaurs.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: Red "My PocketRocket"
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi: White (Being resurrected)
1996 Geo Metro (Stocker)
1999 Suzuki 1.6 Esteem (Baleno) Wagon (Sleeper creeper)


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