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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:54 am 
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Guys, he said that he's out. Just go to suzukird.com and order one from him, he has them in stock right now. It took mine like 3 days to get here.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:44 pm 
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WIsh I would have seen this earlier

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:00 am 
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I know These aren't being manufactured anymore but could you give me the specs on hess pullies. Or if you have maybe a autocad drawing of them you could pm me it. I'm only asking this because at school I have access to a cnc lathe and a manual lathe so I could make one of these for marks and then use it on my car :). If you can that's fine just thought it was worth a try asking.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:15 pm 
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also interested !!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:47 pm 
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I also have access to a CNC lathe through work and would be able to get a bunch of these made for a very cheap price. Suprfly do you have an AutoCad drawing as someone asked so we can give it a try.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:56 pm 
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Sorry, I don't have a drawing.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Is there a chance of getting one for a DOHC 1.3L?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:51 pm 
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Talking to the CNC programmer at work, seeing if he has the time to start looking at one, hardest part for me is coming up with material to practice with!! Company has pretty tight control on the billets


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:00 pm 
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Talked to the guy that had the original AutoCad drawings, which have been lost and he told me to copy the original just make the OD 75% smaller. Going to be trying this soon with our CNC guys and see what happens. Any idea on the new belt size or should I just take the old one to the parts counter and say 75% smaller please?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:13 pm 
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Nope Nope,

A 25% reduction in the underdrive pulley diameter won't net you a 25% reduction in belt length. It'll be a few CM shorter more than likely.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:19 pm 
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If you want to make up a bunch, let me know. I can front the cash, and tell you all the things to look out for. The first run of these were a bit of a learning curve, and a bit rough.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:32 pm 
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The pulley's are the same as far as the cranks from the 1.3 to the 1.0 correct? only differences being the 5 vs 4 bolt holes for the crank? Don't have a 1.3 so I'm gonna have a tough time if they aren't!

We build a lot of 5 groove pulleys for our 1.6l GM engines, and large v grooves for our water pumps and blowers, this shouldn't be to hard for him to work on, I just don't know what the demand is going to be as far as production runs and cost...


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:28 am 
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the biggest difference between the g10 and g13 pulleys is that the 3 bangers run 3 rib belts and the 4 bangers use 4 rib belts. 4 and 5 bolt pulleys add another change while air conditioning in the mix adds 2 more designs.

here's a matrix:

3 rib belt, 4 bolts - g10 89 thru 94
3 rib belt, 4 bolts, dual pulley for a/c - g10 89 thru 94
3 rib belt, 5 bolts - g10 95 thru 2000
3 rib belt, 5 bolts, dual pulley for a/c - g10 95 thru 2000

4 rib belt, 5 bolts - g13 gt and 89 thru 98
4 rib belt, 5 bolts, dual pulley for a/c - g13 gt and 89 thru 98

96 and up pulleys are pinned with a roll pin to the crank sprocket which adds something else to the design for compatibility. the stock pulleys for those cars don't have the "keyhole" broached into them, just a round center bore.

it's hard to make a "one size fits all" under drive pulley because of the design changes from 89 to 2001. but some things like the o.d. of the crank nose and the slot for the key remain the same throughout the years and engines.

the mk1 cars haven't had an under drive option since occ racing produced them years ago. those engines used a v belt thru 1988 and i've only ever had one aluminum pulley for those in about 8 years of collecting parts.

good luck with producing a run of aluminum pulleys. there's a bit of interest out there for them and we're down to just a few options for acquiring them.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:07 am 
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Your biggest demand will be from the 3cyl guys. I had them all made without bolt holes, and drilled them accordingly, as ordered.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:21 am 
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i used the last pulley from mike's run to build my megasquirt trigger wheel.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:57 pm 
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well as I only have 3 cyl to model from I'll give them a shot, The cnc guy at work says he'll draw it up for me and I'll make a couple for now, I have two cars one with 4 bolt and one with the 5. so I'll try and see if he will spin up one of each. Also, what do you guys think about hard anodizing these? we (at my work)send our pulleys off in the high stress areas to increase life. any idea if this is needed in the automotive applications?

I need to see what kind of desire there is for these before I buy a ton of material to do it, good thing is once the program is written, it's there for us to use in the future.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:44 am 
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I'd reccomend anodizing, as any belt slippage will just chew through uncoated aluminum pretty quick. Also most of the pulleys I've seen have been anodized.

You can also make a singular pulley for the 5 bolt with 4 rib pulleys as on my 98 the factory pulley has the key way and a hole drilled out for the pin, so it's a universal fitment.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:10 pm 
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Hey Kickin45 any news on the success of your first batch of underdrive pullies. Makes no sense that 3 or 4 of us start making these pullies when we can pool our resources and try get a better final price. I would be interested in anodizing the pullies.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:17 pm 
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i'd like a 5 bolt 4 rib pulley so i can do an alternator upgrade.

a 55 amp alternator won't keep up with all the electronics i'm adding. heck, just playing the stereo loud puts me over 55 amps. lights, wipers, heater blower, ignition, and injection added to the stereo puts me in deficit twice over.

i'm running a 55 amp alternator on a 3 rib belt but there's no way it'll spin a 105 amp alternator under load.

now, if someone really wants to talk turkey, turn out a 3 pulley set - under drive, water pump, and alternator. have them hard anodized in clear or bright silver. everyone else does red or blue. a bad choice of color and a project takes on a bohemian look. silver goes with everything.

i have one raw aluminum under drive pulley, 1 of 2 that adam pulled from a newly cnc'd batch before he sent the rest off for anodizing. i never had them anodized and the one i have has been on my turbo3 vert since i dropped it into ol' blue 3 (maybe 4?) years ago. with a string checked alignment when it was mounted, there's no appreciable wear on it now. it has a sort of matte white patina now, not shiny like it was when i bolted it on.

still, it fits the overall appearance of the engine bay with painted parts that have lost their former shine, rust lines on the edges of nuts, and accumulations of dust and road grime on hoses and in corners.

since i'm building a different engine and one that i hope to take to car shows and cruise-ins, i'd really like a full set of shiny silver pulleys for it. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:09 pm 
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OK ladies, I'm looking at doing a run of pulleys and hopefully get enough interest to be able to sell them for $50 each plus shipping. I'll have to weigh them to be sure, but I expect shipping to be about $8, and definitely no more than $10. If it is, I'll cover the difference. Remember I'm shipping small packet air from Canada.

They will be 4"/100 mm diameter (25% under drive) , 4 groove (will also work on 3 groove cars) single pulley with 4 or 5 bolt holes as required.
I don't have a price for the anodizing yet, but don't expect it to change the pricing. If it does, they will either be available in plain aluminum, or anodized at the higher price, depending on what you guys want. If anodized, there will only be one colour, and I haven't determined what it will be yet.
Order qty will determine final price, but I hope to get enough interest to justify a run of 50-100 pulleys, and keep it at $50.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:07 am 
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i'm in for 2 pulleys, 4 rib belt, 5 holes.

and a partridge in a pear tree. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:42 am 
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Put me down for two 4 groove 5 bolt pulleys

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:43 am 
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At $50 each, I will be in for two 4-rib 5-bolt pulleys. I have removed the AC and power steering from my 1998 sedan, and the AC on my 89 will not be there when I get that car revuilt.

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I would be up for a 4 groove, 5 bolt pulley.

Can I suggest might get more interest if you update topic name/details.

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I would be in for two 4 rib 5 bolt pulleys also. All singles, with no extra A/C. Who needs A/C to go fast?? :D

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