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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:47 pm 
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i wonder are there available product that able to remove rust like you wash your dish AND it works well.

i know one methods to remove rust

- sand it and add rust protection.

this is not relate to body but inside non-notice thing ( trunk for a spare wheel) from my younger brother's car.

if i do this method then its hard to sand non flat metal.

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Naval jelly works rather well. You apply the stuff and the rust dissappears. There is also a product called rust converter. It does the same thing as naval jelly, but instead of removing rust, it converts the rust to a black primer.

Of course, these products will only really work well on lighter powdery rusts. Anything heavier, like thick scale, I'd use stronger hydrochloric/muratic acid or phosphoric acid. Just neutralize with a box of baking soda when you're done.

I can only hope you're not talking about cancerous rust. The only solution for that is to cut it out and weld in new metal.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:31 pm 
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cool...

one problem is it seems almost thin... if you press it and you will make a hole.

i am not sure what is "lighter powdery rusts"

no no "cancerous rust"

it looks like some thin rust papers on thin metal.

edit: alright almost like this pciture

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if not then copy this http://www.dodgedynasty.50megs.com/repa ... unkwll.jpg and paste into your address box.

it said use por product.... is it good idea?

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keywords: faq rust removal electrolytic electrolysis electro

If it's possible to remove the rusty parts, take a look at electrolytic rust removal:
http://www3.telus.net/public/aschoepp/electrolyticrust.html
http://www.htpaa.org.au/article-electro.php
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm
http://www.davidbradley.net/ERR.html

You can also use citric acid:
http://www.finishing.com/220/38.shtml

...teabags:
http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/rust2.htm

...or molasses:
http://www.antiqueautoranch.com/montana500/adrian/rust.html

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um those links is too small for trunk spare tire well ( no i don't want to put my car into a huge tank)... i would like to buy a spray rust solve or like that.

anyway thanks for interesting links.

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I've repaired antique cars before that had surface rust (not flaky, gone-through rust, just a severe discoloration/dryness on the surface. When wiped with a clean cloth, some powder will discolor the cloth, but the cloth should not 'catch' on any edges or flakes of the deteriorated metal. When you 'push' on the spot, it should still feel solid, no more 'give' than surrounding 'solid' metal). I used POR15, a rust-coverup and undercoating. It's not really made to use on the visible exterior of a car, but I use it for suspension components, trouble areas (interior lower 'cups' of front fenders and quarter panels where debrit and water lay) and for the entire bottom of the car. Floor boards (interior and out), interior of quarter panels, ANYWHERE that rust could start. It's designed (supposedly) to be put on over top of ANY rust (flaky, deteriorated..anythign), but I've never used it like that. I've always removed anything but surface rust and replaced the metal.


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when i push it gently, i felt that is soft and about make a hole if you hit it.

so you mean if it is soft then not recommend to use por15


sorry i alway want to make sure before i do that method.

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The POR15 is MARKETED to be able to 'Fix any rust'..even flaky, ugly rust....but *I* only use it as a covering for rust-prone areas, or to cover EXTREMELY LIGHT surface-rust. Nothing structural. Do a search on Google for POR15 and see what they claim it can do. It IS a terrific product, pretty much like liquid powdercoat, as after it's dry...it's hard as a rock, but flexible enough to be used on suspension components (even springs). The stuff is amazing, and a $37.00 Qt will do three coats on the entire underside of a 64 Lincoln (over 24 feet long) with some to spare. The stuff is remarkable, but you'll need to decide on your own whether your rust necessitates patching the area or just covering it up.

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alright thank you for information

i will check more information about por15 vs rust.

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