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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:57 pm 
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Ok i'm new here. I have a 2.3/2.4 hybrid Q4 that i would love to swap into a 94 geo metro
so i wanted to come on here and see if anybody has done this yet? i was planning on using the getrag 282 5spd out of a brettea and put the 2.3/2.4 quad 4 in there using a cavalier computer and wiring harness. this way i could get a geo with manual everything and put all the cavalier stuff in the metro and run it from the custom dash i would make so i can use the cavalier havac,radio,clusther. That way i really woun't have to worry about the wiring part.

so if you guys can help i would be greatfull


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:46 pm 
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This would be a very interesting swap! I think you may end up using the original trans with some sort of custom adapter unless you can fabricate the larger setup to fit.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:25 pm 
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You're also going to have to modify your axles. I would take a few measurements first, just to make sure the engine will fit. From my experience with those engines, they're not exactly small for a 2.4. That engine also mounts in the engine bay a bit different. You're going to have to come up with a way to fab some mounts. Or make a subframe that'll hold the motor , and attach the motor's subframe to the metro's subframe.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:36 pm 
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yes the motor is kinda big and no on the stock tranny because i know that the getrag that
i have will handel the power i'll be putting to it and yes custom cv shafts and custom mounts for sure. i think that i might have to cut for some clerince for the crank pully. but i would do a custom hood like a wrx or somthing idk. So what do you think of the swap idea??? sould
like it would be cool and get good gas milliage


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:01 pm 
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i see bad things in the weight distribution department.

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c4boom wrote:
i see bad things in the weight distribution department.



you mean to much motor for the little car??? :D thats what its all about i would put some 6'' tires on it if i could fit them in there.

idk what the biggest widest tire that you can put on theis cars?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:56 pm 
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i think its just going to be real heavy on the nose and make it handle poor.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:00 pm 
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i'm not looking for somting to take corner at 100mph in just more for like 1/4's and highway
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Well it should do that very well. I would use a gti outer hub set up and then the cavi inner on the cv shaft then you could have the center custom made that way it will take a beating. Also make sure that you keep the motor level enough that you dont have oil drain or pick up issues. Did you use the long stroke of the 2.4 and the big bore of the 2.3 if so if the ecu is not maf its going o have a conip. Can you give me any info on the motor. I know the gm stuff fairly well. also make sure you dont over rev it because the balance shaft can come apart over 6700 rpms real quick.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:41 pm 
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well ill be using the 2.4 block with 9:5:1 in it and by putting the 2.3 086 head on it,it
bumps it up to like 11:1:1 so there i have the cavie computer witch will be reflashed to make for sure it will run for the best, either way the 2.4 ecm will run the hybrid no prob. as for balance shafts i'm throughing them out and doing the 2.3 oil pump swap.


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that should work it will act abit rough but should run well as long as it all fits. just dont spray it to hard we had a problem with the stock slugs coming apart at a 75 shot on 91 octane with a mild tune

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would it really need spray??? lol i don't think so but ya only a 50shot on it w/o forged shit
and ya i hope i can pull this off and get all of it to work out.


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Well, Swift13b has a Nissan 2.something/ 6speed in his Metro so i think it's possible. Why the Quad4? It makes TONS of power for a 4banger but they are bitches to maintain. I would look more along the lines of the newer Ecotecs over the Quad4, less power but more reliable and more aftermarket.

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you have to love the water pump on the quad 4

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c4boom wrote:
you have to love the water pump on the quad 4



About as fun as an alternator on a Lumina Z34...

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ya got to love pulling a cv shaft just to do an alt dang i think last time I just dropped the cradle

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:25 pm 
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qustion one why the Q4?? story is my bro has a quad 442 w40 car. the has showed me how much fun they are but i have the hybrid
that i got from the jy so i wanted to do the swap in my cavie but that car is getting old. So i want a good play toy but to be able to get good gas milliage with it to. maybe this week going to the jy and looking for a geo metro to do some measuring on. any othere qusiton let me known try to anwser them


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any other ideas and or comments?


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It will snow ball in a huge way. You will have huge hours and $$$'s in a car that you won't get a penny for after. If you want to do it bad and have a lot of fabricating experience it would be neat, but realize it will be a labour of love.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:47 am 
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^^^ true that its not something i would put together and sell


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anyothers?


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Change the water pump and timing chain before you put it in. It's about as fun as cutting your cock off and throwing it in a field while it's in a vehicle :lol: . But, like I said before, go for it man. You've got a LOT of work ahead of ya!!! Fabricating special parts is quite a chore when you haven't been doing it for 20 years. The metro will be a good car to hone your skills with tho.

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well thanks man ^^^^


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