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 Post subject: Teach me on ISC valves
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:02 pm 
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Hi,

I'm swapping a 1.6 16v SOHC from a 96 Vitara/Sidekick in my Samurai using the Vit/Kick wiring harness but a 97 Baleno/Esteem intake.

The reason for the esteem intake is because the Baleno/Esteem throttle body will point to the front to breath fresh air, not over the exhaust manifold like the stock Vitara/Sidekick intake. The Baleno/Esteem is also smaller so it will clear the hood and look better.

So you get an idea, here's the Vitara/Sidekick intake
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And here's the Baleno/Esteem mounted on the engine
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The 96 Vitara/Sidekick ISC got a 2 pin connector
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while the Baleno/Esteem ISC got a 3 pin.
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Both ISC aren't a bolt-on swap.

What is different between the two ISC valves? What should I do with the extra wire ?

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:35 am 
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I'd try to use the ISC valve that goes with the ECU being used.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:09 pm 
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Gasoline Fumes wrote:
I'd try to use the ISC valve that goes with the ECU being used.


That's plan "B" but I want to know if there is any way to wire it correctly.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:12 am 
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it should be your plan A, really... what ECU are you gonna use?

can the Throttle Bodies be swapped out?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:53 am 
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I'll be using de Sidekick/Vitara wiring harness and ECU.

The Sidekick/Vitara ISC is not located on the throttle body so swaping the TB is not the solution.

Since the bolt patern is different, I would have to make an adaptor to install the Kick/Vit ISC on the Esteem/Baleno throttle body.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:21 pm 
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I removed both valves and I now agree that using the one that goes with the ECU I'm using is the way to go.

In fact, the Esteem/Baleno ISC/IAC is a rotary valve controlled by a stepper motor, so the opening is variable. The 3 wires are probably a ground, an analog signal wire and a feedback signal wire to confirm the valve position to the ECU.

The Sidekick/Vitara one is a simple solenoid with spring return so it's on or off and need only power and ground.

Some pics; Esteem/Baleno on the left, Sidekick/Vitara on the right.

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So the easy way is to fab a simple adaptor to mount the Sidekick/Vitara ISC on the Esteem/Baleno Throttle body.

Thanks to those who stopped by to help.


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