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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:13 am 
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This option is really good and cheap. This is an Ecuadorian development and works well. This engine was Ecuadorian Road Racing National Champion for the 0 to 1151cc class. If you want more information i can give you any time.[/img]


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:shock: i wanna buy that kinda engine.

any information please :twisted:

last question... is it very rare and expensive? and where can i get it from :roll:

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:shock: MORE INFO!!!


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:twisted: MUST HAVE WILL TRADE SOUL .......


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Very cool! 8)
Too bad Suzuki did not produce more of them and ship more worldwide.

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If ya look at the small inconsistcies in the lettering/numbers on the valve cover, I'm guessing that's a hacked up GTi head. Props for doing a great job on it too! Any photos of the assembly and any info on the cams you had to make?

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Hmm... doesn't seem too willing to give up any info, despite the fact that he said to ask about it... Is this just like the hayabusa engine swap?

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I know this has been discussed over by many, but I'm still not getting it. Half of the lobes on the g10 cam are for exhaust and the other half are for intake right? With a dohc, one side is for the intake and the other side is for exhaust right? Since you're using the g10 bottom end, wouldn't it work if you put two g10 cams in the cut down head? maybe cut the unused lobes from each cam to cut down on weight or would they balance out for a smoother rev? I would still love to have that big wide valve cover under my hood. Good luck to the guy who gets it to work. The whole thing confuses me!


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G10: 3 lobes are intake, 3 lobes are exhaust. They are paired with each other, in other words, 1 intake and 1 exhaust. The point is, intake and exhaust open at different times, so having 1 intake lobe and 1 exhaust lobe open 2 intake valves or 2 exhaust valves isn't going to work.

However... I could see some very inventive individual creating valvetrain to utilize two G10 cams with intake and exhaust lobes ground off for the exhaust and intake cams, respectively. The Honda VTEC camshafts only use 1 lobe to open 2 valves once VTEC hits. :!:


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could you bridge the valves so they could be opend by one lobe?


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That's what I was thinking, but after looking at a G13b head, the cam journals go between valve pairs. I'm thinking the G10 lobes would line up right about where the journals are. Just a guess though.


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What about the SOHC 16V head?


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if some one was to get this head here, why not just get the cams that are IN IT NOW??


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You're talking about the DOHC 12-valve head? I don't know where it came from, we are speculating that it is a custom head. Therefore we're considering ways to make it. Personally I don't need two cams, but I wouldn't mind having 12 valves.


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Sorry about the delay, but i was taking some pictures and information for you. The head is custom, and modified starting from a 1.3 gti head. In Ecuador we have a huge and competitive class for 1.0 cars, this was the motivation for a local mechanic (Mr. Pablo Endara) to make this development... The cams are completly built for..
I attach pictures from the head, some information about the mechanic experience, the patent, and some more,,,


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more pictures...


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:D SWEET!!!! :D

How do we contact Mr. Lopez?
Does he sell these heads and cams?


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Yes, He sells the complete kit..
You can contact him at this phone number in Ibarra Ecuador
He doest have an e mail

(593)6 2641721


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do you happen to know a general price that this package would be? (in ecuadorian is fine...we can convert it.)

and for those that do know of have gotten a response from their inquiries, would you please list some other specs such as what RPM it was run at in competition and what sort of cam profiles were used? (if the profiles are custom and not to be published.....i can understand)
I'm just Imagining the turbo monsters that could be built with such a head.

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Agreed, A price would be nice.
Does he speak english?
Me no speak a the spanish! :shock:


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:shock: Now that is some serious talent!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Sorry about the delay!! Now i`m with the patent owner to give you information and answer your questons.

For the price calculation we should start from what are your engine needs: Road Racing, Rally, Street, 1/4 mile, turbo purposes. We must built the cams and design the head for each application. Also depends if we put into it standart pistons or 74 to 78 mm pistons. This would increase the displacement.
Compresion ratio 10:1 to 13:1. The offering is for a complete engine because the modified head fits directly but it need some changes and modification in the water and oil conducts.
Another option could be if you send us a G13B head and a G10 bottom engine to do the work and then we send you back ready to use.

As example the last racing engine produced (pictures) has the following specs:
- Road racing engine
- 115 Hp @ 8000 RPM estimated
- Bore 77 mm
- Stroke 77 mm
- Compretion ratio 12:1
- Displacement 1075 cc
- Cams 290 degrees 11.5 mm lift
- n/a
- Carbs: Keihin FCR 41mm

We are very intrested in working for you.
For more info you can also write to this e-mail or phone:
p.endara@hotmail.com
(593)6 641721 or you can give us your number to call you directly.


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thats very impressive specification...

guess its very expensive if you find g13b head and etc then sell... eh?

i wonder how much if i send you g13b head... ( head only... is it possible?)

about "Carbs: Keihin FCR 41mm"

no efi? if no efi then we have to do swap ecu and other

ps i think 10:1 is good enough because in canada and usa doesn't offer higher than 94 oct. :|

ps2 got infromation about mpg? i hope its not less than 25 mpg

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well fo ra price estimate. lets assume the exact same engine you specified in the previous post. what price would that one cost us without the carbs or manifold (and leave the fuel delivery/intake system to us). thank you for your offer of what looks to be a fine product so far.

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Sorry about the delay!! Now i`m with the patent owner to give you information and answer your questons.

For the price calculation we should start from what are your engine needs: Road Racing, Rally, Street, 1/4 mile, turbo purposes. We must built the cams and design the head for each application. Also depends if we put into it standart pistons or 74 to 78 mm pistons. This would increase the displacement.
Compresion ratio 10:1 to 13:1. The offering is for a complete engine because the modified head fits directly but it need some changes and modification in the water and oil conducts.
Another option could be if you send us a G13B head and a G10 bottom engine to do the work and then we send you back ready to use.

As example the last racing engine produced (pictures) has the following specs:
- Road racing engine
- 115 Hp @ 8000 RPM estimated
- Bore 77 mm
- Stroke 77 mm
- Compretion ratio 12:1
- Displacement 1075 cc
- Cams 290 degrees 11.5 mm lift
- n/a
- Carbs: Keihin FCR 41mm

We are very intrested in working for you.
For more info you can also write to this e-mail or phone:
p.endara@hotmail.com
(593)6 641721 or you can give us your number to call you directly.

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Ok well look i need to know how much this is going to be man, I have a butt load of money that i am aloud to spend on my metro (according to my girlfriend...) So yeah, A price for a motor that is over bored(78mm), for turbo purposes, And i have to use it as a daily driver as well. And no intake things included, ie:intake man, carbs...ect... And i dont have a G13b head assem, or a g10 bottom, unless i cant yank the one from a local junk yard. And i need to know how to pay as well. Thanks man!

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