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 Post subject: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:40 am 
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Hi, my goal is to convert my 2000 Chevy Metro to a GTi.
I have All the parts to do this as I have 3 Complete GTi motors, and 1 89 GTi I owned as a donor for parts. Here are some Picsof the metro how it sits today. And some pics from the 3 cyl build.
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I will try to keep up with the pics and status.

GTi here I come,
Trevor


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:18 am 
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Good luck with it man. It was tons of fun as well as a few tears. But you look a lot more prepared than I was!

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:43 pm 
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that car is soooooo pretty. a twincam in a clean mk5 shell will be cool.

still, i'm torn on you pulling the 3 banger out. i'm infatuated with those engines. :ez_pimp:

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:21 pm 
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I will be building 2 GTi motors for this Project the 1st will be pretty much a restored motor with new parts mostly stock. This will be going in a MK5 Chevy Metro, so I will use the stock motor as a trial/test. While the other will be long ways away down the road. Pics below. Also have swapped the Interiors.
See all stock while other will be built
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Advanced 3Tech Gear New timing kit and Water pump
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New Dist. Rotor, Thermostat, and reconditioned Water Neck and Sensors
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Here is the GTi engine bay.
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Next will be the Aluminum Under drive Pulley, and exhaust Mani., also more WIRES!?!


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:03 pm 
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You'll love the pulley, makes that engine a fair bit more responsive feel. Hopefully the wire swap will be painless for you.

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:39 pm 
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I am not to worried for the wires I have the time and won't be rushing this at all I will be swapping the master cyl and booster tonight and will post pics after is there any harm in painting the brake booster?
Maybe I will drill the hole for the pass through for the engine harness on the driver side firewall...... yeah I will

Trevor

Brake booster was not installed... and firewall will not be cut.
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Last edited by didriksen on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:55 pm 
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Okay, I decided to take on a slightly bigger part of this swap, I removed the dash so I could swap wires and remove the Airbag system.
As of now the car's Airbag system is non-existent, and the Mk2 Gti F1
ECU is in-place, I do not need to cut into the firewall as there is a pass-through. Here are a couple of pics. Ignore the messy floor!
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Does anyone know if the MK3 GTi instrument cluster will fit in my MK5 dash? If yes then I am in the market for one as I only have a MK2 and MK4/5.

I also sent parts to my buddies shop for blasting then to be Powder Coated. I'm thinking YELLOW
Another note on the newer body style, there was no need to fabricate anything for the ECU mounts or paths the wire harness passes.
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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:30 pm 
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its awsome that the gt ecu bolts up in the mk4/5 body even if its only with 2 bolts, yes the mk3 gt cluster fits, i don't know if the pin out on the connectors is the same though.

btw thats one clean car, good luck with the swap its fun once its done

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:58 pm 
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geopat wrote:
yes the mk3 gt cluster fits, i don't know if the pin out on the connectors is the same though.


Could some one see if the MK2 cluster is interchangeable with the MK3?
(MK2 harness with MK3 cluster) Thanks
Trevor


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:37 am 
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2 connectors on the mk2 cluster, 3 connectors on the mk3. the connectors are considerably different, so no, they aren't compatible.

i suggest that you use a mk3 sub-harness from the engine harness to the cluster and swap the single mk3 connector to the flatter, wider mk2 connector to make the sub-harness fit your mk2 engine harness at the base of the steering column.

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:12 pm 
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didriksen , I admire your skills keep up the good work

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
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Made some progress today All fluids and wires have been remover from car. I will be picking the Motor out tomorrow. And I have started hooking up the GTi Harness.

Some photos.

G10 Ready to pull out after CV shafts come out.
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MK2 F1 ECU in place with GTi harness in view Image
On the MK4/5 The side-wall Pass-through is still thier with a rubber grommet (SWEET).
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The whole car will get a power wash after the build.
Next post will be more interesting!

Trevor
As is the other Wires will get tucked after she fires-upImage


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:44 am 
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Compression is 195 across all 4 cyl. They were 165 but new rings and newer pistons solved that. I am in the market for a Geo metro, with no rust and no wreaks. Here in NV, if I can't find one I will sell the motor. Old 3 cyl has about 4,000 miles on it and was getting about 47MPG.

I went to the Pick-a-Part and Gathered the last parts for the Wire harness. I also scored on a Throttle Body from a Nissan SR20, Gti stock TB is 45mm and I scored a 55mm. So now i will be boring out the Intake manifold to match, and some machining to make the TPS work.

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:12 am 
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I have made lots of progress with the car.
I have installed the motor and transmission witch was more difficult the I imagined, now I have the common transmission mounting problem. I have also installed the high flow fuel rail, and Fuel pressure regulator. The Front hubs are switched and the rear brakes have the new Rotors and pads. And the Dash is reinstalled, with the GT Cluster and the GTi shifting assembly, I have also Swapped the Front and rear seats.

Here are some pics;
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Some are good shots and some are to dark

Trevor


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
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everything's looking good! were you able to find out the size of the injectors i sold you?

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
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More work is completed I now have spark/ignition puzzle solved and the Transmission Mounting problem solved. But I am having trouble with Fuel and Start-up. Neither of my fuel pumps are turning on with the ignition. I have the Walbro 255 +wire spliced into the stock(Pink)wire that is switch with the fuel pump relay. Also my starter is not turning on. I have problems with a few other electrical things as-well. The green plug off the Gti engine harness is a puzzle in its own I have Spliced 7 of the 11 wires into the Metro harness. There was also the plug in the engine bay that was a round shape with 7 connections on it, all but 2 are spliced in(I believe the blue is for the injectors, that must be part of the fuel problem). Also what purpose is the Vacuum line on the bottom of the VSV(brown)?

Will I have any foreseen complications by not running a monitor coupler?

Could someone help me with the sensors on the water neck also?
I need someone to identify them for me, maybe in a picture?
I can see the CTS and the 2 temp sensors, why 2?
here is a generic pic of the 2 Image
here is one of the other 2. Image

any help is welcome.

Trevor


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:26 pm 
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The one blade one is a sender for the temp guage(makes it way to the cluster only). The other looks like a coolant sensor, that gives the ecm a signal(makes its way to the computer only). There will be one more in that area that turns the cooling fan on, it will have two heavier wires coming out of it.
Been watching your post, great work, really impressive project! I've been wanting to do this to mine, but just to busy to tackle it. Nice job.

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:29 am 
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Here are some pics from the progress.
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I know not much but they get me exited

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:50 am 
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trevor,

in the close up pic of the ignitor, that yellow 2 wire connector is the old fuel injector resistor. unplug it and ditch the aluminum cased resistor unit. you don't need that with the gt's mpfi injector arrangement.

that might also solve your fuel pump issue.

you also need to have a wire to supply switched power to the coil. the ignitor fires and dumps voltage from the - coil to ground to collapse the magnetic field.

without the diagnostic coupler there's no way to jumper out the distributor to set the base timing so you'll have to work around that.

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
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Ok I will remove the Resistor,
I have the Monitor coupler I will try to wire this in I guess..

I am running a MSD 6AL with a blaster 2 coil. I am using the White/Blue wire as the switched power source.
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without the diagnostic coupler there's no way to jumper out the distributor to set the base timing so you'll have to work around that.
I am a little confused as to what this is pertaining to.
Maybe a brief explanation.

Also for my MSD Tach Adapter, do I use the Ecu A12 Ignition signal
and the Ecu C6 Ignition out?

On a different note I hear my relays click on with the key in the running location an a relay click for starting but my brake light is lit constantly and my battery light comes on upon turning the key to the starting location. Any one have any insight here?

Trevor


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
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The only time that the random lights were happening to me was when I had a bad ground. Something worth checking just incase.

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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
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All I need now is spark, I have fuel pressure as I fixed the pumps but my injectors are not fireing?
What wires go to the Tach. adapter?
But most importantly what to do about the injection system?

Trevor


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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:53 am 
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didriksen wrote:
All I need now is spark, I have fuel pressure as I fixed the pumps but my injectors are not fireing?
What wires go to the Tach. adapter?
But most importantly what to do about the injection system?

Trevor



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 Post subject: Re: 2000 Chevy Swift GTi
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did you get the bugs fixed?
BTW nice headlight projectors! :thumb2:


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