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Underbody braces, turbos and more!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:44 pm 
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I'm turning my ice race geo into a bit of a monster,a yamaha R1 engine sitting where the passenger seat should be driving a dual toothed sprocket via a jack shaft with chains running fore and aft to a pair of swift diffs mount with sealed bearings sandwiched between steel plates.I just picked up the diff plates from the machine shop so I can start assembling the chain case/diff mounts,I have an 8 inch wide channel already cut from the firewall to the spare tire well.
The front end parts from a chevy sprint are to be used for the rear hubs,brakes,cv's,control arms and sway bar.

Pics to follow.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:30 pm 
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You are a sick man :P

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:37 pm 
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That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:11 pm 
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Why stop there, get a Busa engine :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:27 pm 
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No need for a busa,I have a td04 15t for later. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:52 am 
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Well good luck with the project, looking forward to seeing pics :D

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:32 pm 
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Managed to install the diff support frame today,I'll do the lower brace later once I start getting more stuff in place.Tomorrow I plan to drain the oil,install the oem titanium header and hopefully hoist it in and get working on the engine mounts.

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you're crazy, but in a good way. =)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:57 pm 
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Thanks,the engine is sitting in there now and hopefully the mounts will be done this week.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:40 pm 
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How much boost do you plan on running ? I run 17# on my RX1 snowmobile ( basically a detuned R1) and it's right at 300 hp. How do you plan on lubricating the differentials ?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:07 am 
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To keep a crisply responding engine I'll keep the stock 11.8cr and run no more than 8lbs,should give about 230hp at the crank.I won't be boosting it this winter,once I pull it out after ice race season the plan is to fab up the manifold etc for its use in the open wheel car.

You running stock rods still?,300hp is the upper limit of the stockers.

The diffs are filled with grease btw,hence the boots.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:40 pm 
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Sick man ...I like the way you think. Outside of the box.
Your running axel lube graphite or mos2?
The plate that hold the diff look like they could use some reinforcement.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:04 pm 
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Wheel bearing grease is what I jammed it full of.

The mounts aren't completed,want to get it more complete before I add further bracing that may be in the way of something unforeseen.The rear control arm inner mount will be right on the diff plates so yes that needs much more bracing,gotta get that in and the sway bar(doubles as the lateral link) 1st.The pic of the front looks like its just flat bar,its actually angle.I need to duct air to the interior mounted rad thru that area,probably using the chain case as a plenum to minimize any further weakening of the firewall with more large holes.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:04 pm 
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Cv joints that use graphite or mos2 grease last longer than ones filled with bearing grease.
The mos2 will reduce the friction in your diff gears and after it's warmed up it turn into a semi liquid so I think that will lube it better...just a thought.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:06 pm 
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This baby get used 6 weekends a year,wear isn't a high priority. :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:35 pm 
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L8 APEXR wrote:
To keep a crisply responding engine I'll keep the stock 11.8cr and run no more than 8lbs,should give about 230hp at the crank.I won't be boosting it this winter,once I pull it out after ice race season the plan is to fab up the manifold etc for its use in the open wheel car.

You running stock rods still?,300hp is the upper limit of the stockers.

The diffs are filled with grease btw,hence the boots.

I use a headshim to get my cr down to 10to1 . that way I can get by with 100 octane at 17#. Still running stock rods but the oil filter came loose in March and rattled the bearings. I just took it apart last night and figured I could grind the crank to .010 under and get it rolling again but they only make standard bearings for them.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:27 pm 
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Bummer,hope you get it sorted out for a reasonable cost.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:51 pm 
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Engine is in,

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How are you going to get the carbs to work at that angle ?

Ken...


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:24 pm 
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Not familiar with sport bike motors, but I assume an R1 would be injected.

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suprf1y wrote:
Not familiar with sport bike motors, but I assume an R1 would be injected.


Not until 2002, the 98-01 were carbed.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:02 pm 
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Haha,yes its injected and running on megasquirt.The earlier carbed models look EXACTLY the same,the float bowls are level while the throat is downdraft.


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G-sus wrote:
Why stop there, get a Busa engine :mrgreen:

I am in the process of designing the 1300 turbo'd busa swap actually. Front mounted motor with the 6 speed Subaru STI trans. AWD. No real purpose, just something to get myself into trouble with. Lol. That build will start mid spring 2012. 8)

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nixmixin wrote:
G-sus wrote:
Why stop there, get a Busa engine :mrgreen:

I am in the process of designing the 1300 turbo'd busa swap actually. Front mounted motor with the 6 speed Subaru STI trans. AWD. No real purpose, just something to get myself into trouble with. Lol. That build will start mid spring 2012. 8)


I'm looking forward to that :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:07 pm 
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That sounds like quite the project,isn't the subie transmission HUGE?.How would you drive the trans?.


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