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 Post subject: 3.1 swap, 95 metro
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:04 pm 
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Location: Montague PEI, Canada
G-day all. I recently acquired a 95 metro hatch, 5 speed car, in decent shape, as well as a 87 turbo fire fly, which is beyond repair body wise. The plan was to try to salvage enough parts of the 95 to fix the 87, but as it turns out the 95 is a better car. The 87 is basically parts. I also have a 92 Sunbird with a fantastic 3.1 and 5 speed, and being a little bit of an idiot, I keep thinking about trying to jam the 3.1 into the 95. I've measured both cars (the Sunbird and the Metro), and as it turns out, they are both 33 inches between the shock towers. I realize it wouldn't be a huge increase in power, but it would be a riot on the street , and I have almost no money tied up in these cars. I also have a turbo off a Dodge Caliber I could add if need be. As for the 87, I'm just going to find another body, as I really like the car, and don't really want to waste the turbo motor on the 95. Any Ideas or info would help. I'm mainly worried about suspension and axles,and wiring issues. If any one can offer any insight or wisdom to this foolishness, before I try it , it would be great.
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 Post subject: Re: 3.1 swap, 95 metro
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:01 pm 
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well, weight will be an issue. then front end suspention. traction will be nonexisitant.
usual engine swap stuff. ECU, fuel pump, fuel lines? sensors, choped harness. youll need a wiring schemitic from both cars.
id say turbo the 95. use the turbo from the dodge, and weld a manifold. i gather yyour not depending on these cars and i am guessing the 95 was ment to be destroyed anyways.

mostly the hard part will be fuel. injectors, pump flow, control (stock ecu, megaspuirt, hobbs pressure sw, ect.

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 Post subject: Re: 3.1 swap, 95 metro
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:10 pm 
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The car would just be a toy, I have a daily driver, so I don't need either one. I also have no money tied up in them. And yes, the metro was to be sent to the junk yard, but it turns out its pretty solid, and runs well. I am leaning towards just fixing it up more and more all the time. I have a friend who is a Mechanic and is willing to help me try to swap the motors if I decide. I figure I would take the complete harness from the sunbird, as well as the pump and computer. I was going to try to have the axles shortened, and somehow use the front struts and control arms from the sunbird as well. I'm pretty sure I would need bigger brakes as well. If the motor was another 100hp, (its only 140hp) I would have tore it out by now!
Thanks for your reply. :)


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 Post subject: Re: 3.1 swap, 95 metro
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:54 pm 
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It's not a practical project. If you have a lot of time on your hands, tackle it, but pretty much every time someone tries to put these things together(last one was Montana van 3400 into a geo I think?) it just lands up never getting done. Just doesn't make sense, unless you are really really bored and don't mind loading up a hacked up mess and taking it to the crusher once the logistics of the project face you. Hate to sound like the bad guy, but why bother? If nothing else, check on axle resplining cost alone. Its a necessity, so may as well factor custom axle cost in right from the start.

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