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 Post subject: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:44 am 
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Are all of the Auto trans the same? Is there a 4 sp Auto or lock up torq out there?
How about a swap from something else?
I have several Metros, swifts and GT's and the 99 auto Really needs another gear! (and power steering too)


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:02 pm 
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all swift autos are 3sp no lockup.


the esteem is a 4sp but its been said to not fit in the swift due to size. youll also have that whole 1.6 bellhousing issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:50 pm 
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I see, thanx! I supose the GTI would have the tallest final drive then?
Perhaps I could do a bit of swapping around! I have a 89 GTI auto that I could possible put into my 99 1.3 16v SOHC? Then take the 99 and put that into my 94 3cyl?


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:39 pm 
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Well I tried the search again and still no luck! So where do I find the ratos?


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:07 pm 
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My 92 Cultus with 13GB 16V SOHC and an ECVT has a 2.503-.497 range, Final 4.666.

I think the lowest driving ratio would therefore be 0.497 X 4.666 = 2.319 to 1.

The engine spins at about 2000 RPM at 70 mph on a level road.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:22 am 
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Thanx thats alot lower RPM than my 99! But where would I find all the different final ratios?


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:50 pm 
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the ecvt (electronically controlled constant velocity transmission) was pretty much an asian market transmission. you'd be hard pressed to find one of those in north america, pretty much never in the usa.

that transmission has a split sheave that gets pressed together by hydraulics. when the 2 sides come closer together it forces the drive chain to move farther out on the sheave diameter.

those are pretty wild. the engine rpm seems to hold steady while the car gains speed (as a function of the effective sheave diameter expanding.)

those have their own set of problems, though. the sheave halves get grooved and the chain tends to want to run in those grooves. the wear occurs pretty much in the spots that correspond to speed limits (35, 55, 65, etc.) and when they start getting cranky the car accelerates to those worn spots and tends to stay right there. the other thing is that the suzuki cvt pushes the drive chain instead of pulling it so the chain has a funny wear mode as it pushes the links through the sheave.

still, the cvt is a pretty nifty deal and i'd love to give one a whirl.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:54 am 
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So it's a cvt like a snowmobile or my bro's Maxima!
Does anyone know of a list of the different trans and final drive ratios?


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:36 pm 
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there have been several lists in as many threads.

hit that search button at the top of the page. :search: type in transmission ratios.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:03 pm 
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Sorry to be off topic but I wanted to respond to t3 ragtop:

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the ecvt (electronically controlled constant velocity transmission) was pretty much an asian market transmission. you'd be hard pressed to find one of those in north america, pretty much never in the usa.


I might have the only RHD Cultus convert ECVT in Canada. The DMV had to assign it to a new insurance rate class when I registered it. It is a blast driving it in the summer. It has 2 additional modes Power or Snow in addition to the normal Drive or Low mode. Power mode keeps revs high throughout acceleration and coast, while Snow mode keeps the rev range moderate so that take-off is less likely to create wheel spin. Normal drive mode is very smooth in that one can apply slightly off idle throttle opening and wait for speed to creep up. Since there is no engagement bump sensation when placing it in Reverse, an annoying back up alarm sounds(inside the car somwhere in the dash) to remind you not floor it and back up through your garage wall!


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:58 am 
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i figured as much. :lol: that's a pretty rare find in the north american market.

as i understand things, some of those made it to the australian and n-zed market where trade with japan is less restrictive but yours is only one of 2 that i've heard about in the usa and canada.

that has to be a hoot to drive. does it have the g10 or sohc g13 engine? it was more common for the european cul-con to have the g13 drive train.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:16 pm 
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It has a SOHC 16V G13B, factory A/C with eco mode, Tilt wheel, pwr windows, F/R anti-roll bars, 14" steelies, and P/S. I had to change all the tires, light bulbs, tail and marker lenses, add DRL relay+NA headlamps in order to pass importation inspection, although they let me leave the factory JDM bumpers in place (no styrofoam absorbers or steel reinforcements, only light stamped brackets supporting the bumper covers.)


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:30 pm 
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Never understood canada and drl requirements. I understand the theory but in actual practice I hate the glare.

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Yeah, we've had DRL laws since 1990. The good news is that DRL law doesn't necessarily apply to use of the main headlamps, so I will be modifying the DRL to illuminate a pair of LED strips instead.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto trans ?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:52 pm 
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I have a power steering setup to fit your car.

Ken.....


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