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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:51 am 
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I got the 88 turbo running again tonight with lots of upgrades

3cyl equal length manifold from Jess At turbine Tech
subaru 1.8L Legacy turbo IHI RHB5 VF48 turbo
2.5" downpipe to 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust
9x12" intercooler with 2.5" intake pipes
Custom intake manifold with VW 2L Throttle body <50mm>
Custom 36.5mm intake valves with chevy dual springs
Custom ground Turbo cam from Colt Cams <1mm extra lift and more agressive ramp angles>
Tial 50mm BOV
Battery relocated to the trunk


Megasquirt with the MSnSnExtra firmware running EDIS-6 Ford Crank triggered ignition with 1 coil per cylinder, Boost control, Rad fan control, Water injection, Switchable fuel tables <dash mounted switch>.

Zeitronix Wideband Oxy controller with Display and EGT probe.

so far she barked to life and sounds crazy, the only issue is the fuel maps are WAY to rich at 10:1 AFR's i'll work on those tomorrow

Wondered if anyone has any fuel or ignition maps for a T3 turbo i can use as a baseline, I dont care if they are MS maps or from anything else anything even stock engine data gives me an idea.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:17 am 
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beautiful job :ez_smokin:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:03 am 
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F&F, where did u get that crank trigger? Cause i am interested in running direct ignition with Microtech.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:36 am 
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Its Ford Parts.. from a 90 Ranger/Aerostar etc with a V6 4liter i think..

$100 for all the bits from a local wrecker and then $35 for a set of plug wires

You have to ground half the towers since its normally waste spark.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:49 pm 
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that was a lot of work to get the gear on the cam and then move it to the crank wasn't it?

the 3 high tension leads right to the chassis gives me the willies :buzz: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:36 pm 
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that was a lot of work to get the gear on the cam and then move it to the crank wasn't it?

the 3 high tension leads right to the chassis gives me the willies :buzz: :lol:

aaaah .. i was scratching my head for a bit after watching the build up with the trigger wheel on the cam gear.
any reason you can't use it on the cam gear ? the ecu isn't smart enough to hande it ?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:19 pm 
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why did you run round lights? clearance? :?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:27 pm 
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he only wishes volkswagen had made his suzuki ;) .. no worse then the guys who try to make their swifts into honda civics :P
probably a good light upgrade really, it'll be interesting to see what sort of vw grill is butchered to fit .. i'd love to see the dual round lights from the early gti's

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I put the 7" rounds on because i knew they had steel backing plates.. cost me $28 each CDN for Eurospec H4's, my stock ones were full of water and broken glass and i needed about 2" clearance on the drivers side headlight to get the IC pipe through.. So i cut the headlight support back and welded a new bracket in to hold the upper piece and then welded the buckets in on both sides.. gave me the 2" i was after pretty quickly and its a race car, so they'll end up covered in tape anyways.. just need lights to be street legal for a little while.

I still need to figure out a way to shroud them to make them blend into the front a little more.

And i moved the trigger wheel down after running the numbers on where things would be <degree wise> in the cycle if i put them in either spot, Edis would be confused by having its rotation halved and i'd end up with a hard time trying to calculate proper advance numbers etc, as well has having my RPM halved <not a bad thing>

It works this way i tell MS its a 6 cyl and that i want it to alternate fuel squirts, and then i just run the injectors off one bank of the injector driver circuits so that i get 1 squirt every 2 ignition events..

Its running better and better still have work to do though..

and the 3 wires right to the chassis work just like the coil body on a regular 1 tower coil, normally the secondary is grounded through the body of the coil itself which is bolted down to the chassis, the energy always has to travel through the ground path in order to complete the circuit and "spark"

I'm just making it more visable.


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you should install a "grab bar" right where the plug wires ground. :buzz:
when most poeple see the three plug wires grounding they wont understand why you did it, and then if there was a fake handle to grab, you could tell them thats to get yourself amped up before a race!!! :vibe: :twisted:

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Couldn't you just use a newer(96 or newer) block and oil pan? Then just use the factory crank position sensor? After that, just modify the block for your oil source and the knock sensor. Then everything would be a bolt up ordeal, and you wouldn't have to custom fabricate anything.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:08 am 
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Custom fabricating things is half the fun isnt it?

Drove the car tonight

Maxed the stock injectors <datalogging indicates 100% duty cycle at 6500rpm and started to lean out to 13:1 air fuel ratios at 14psi.. and if the stock injectors are 250cc at 3bar then its about 280cc at 4bar <14lbs of boost> which means i'm somewhere over 150hp potential.

=) hits the rev limiter at 7500rpm pretty damn fast.. fun as hell to drive.


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amazing effort.
Congrats on a fantastic sounding setup.

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its a very old thread yes, but would someone have a pic of this car with grille etc?? was thinking of using circle headlights aswell jus to make mines look different.

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