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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:37 am 
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hi everyone..
i need need some help for it coz this is the 1st time i drive turbo firefly
i just have a swift gti
anyways do u guys know wt can i do if i wanna have a bigger turbo ..
any other turbo will bolt rite on or sightly mod??
wt else i can improve performance "faster"
or any other idea to mod this car?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:46 am 
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It's just like modding any other car. K&N, exhaust, plugs and wires, ud pulley, cam gears, suspension. What is a "bigger" turbo? Bigger compared to what?. Wait, do you have GTi or turbo firefly?

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i have both on hand..
but rite goin to wrk on the turbo fly
so i need some of modding tips...


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I looked into different turbos about a couple of months back for my Turbo Fly, and It seems that IHI RHB5's from Mazda 626 (and 323?), Turbo Subarus and Ford Thunderbird Turbos are popular, as are (14G?) turbos from automatic EagleTalons. I believe Ford Probe Turbos had RHB5's as well. Keep in mind that RHB5's differ in trims depending on what car they came from; also, the turbine inlet flange varies as well (4 bolt square for Mazda, 3 bolt triangular for Subies). NOTHING will bolt up easily (other than another stock RHB3); any of these bigger turbos will need a custom flange/manifold/adapter. I have an RHB5 sitting around from a turbo 626, and it is signifigantly bigger dimensionally than the stock RHB3. Mounting it in the same location as the stock turbo would put the downpipe very close to the radiator, unless the downpipe was made as a sharp (and restrictive elbow) or if a banjo style downpipe were used. I would opt to relocate the rad to the passenger side if I were to put in an RHB5. These turbos should only be considered if you are shooting for ~180 hp; If you are looking for more pep out of your turbo 3 like I am (ie. ~100hp from its stock 70), then the stock turbo, I believe, will be sufficient. The bigger turbos will be less responsive, which in my mind takes away from the fun factor of our diminutive cars. With either the bigger turbo or a high-strung stock one, you should be willing to go the extra way to manage the fuel with bigger injectors, fuel pump and fuel controller etc. etc. Oh, and you should put in a blow off valve (even for stock boost pressures) if you plan to drive hard, as the compressor/turbine shaft on our tiny RHB3's is small and weak, and is infamous for snapping under full-boost-then-chop throttle situations. Other considerations? I dunno... clutch? I've asked around before and I hear our clutches are the same as Gti's, and I also hear that site administrator Whattheeee (is it 4 e's?) has been able to hold more torque on his stock one than I plan to make, but he'd be a better person to ask. Hope this helps, I'm learning about these little turbocharged sewing machines just as you are. :)


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Best mod for the turbo 3 is to rip that piece of Sh**T motor out of it and replace it with a G13B!

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totally check out turbo3haven .. locals have had that little turbo up to 25+psi boost & the mk1 turbo 3's putting out way over 200hp ..
they have tons of potential, even just cranking the boost up a couple psi will do wonders for it.


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Five Zigen is right.... i had one, it was fun, but it just doesn't compare to the G13B

Granted the swap was hell and it STILL doesn't run,

i dunno... i'll shut-up now

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FiveZigen wrote:
Best mod for the turbo 3 is to rip that piece of Sh**T motor out of it and replace it with a G13B!


Yes, and sell the turbo 3 for dirt cheap to Turbo3Newbie! Alternatively, I do accept donations of unwanted-yet-perfectly-good-running turbo 3's for all you folks out there who have abondoned the G10! (No thanks to you Mustard =) ). Spare engines always come in handy...


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n1tr0 wrote:
totally check out turbo3haven .. locals have had that little turbo up to 25+psi boost & the mk1 turbo 3's putting out way over 200hp ..
they have tons of potential, even just cranking the boost up a couple psi will do wonders for it.



What is turbo3haven ???????????


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The turbo haven is kinda slow right now,but will pick up soon. Many of the members have winter projects planned.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/turbo3haven/start

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