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 Post subject: T3 build
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:11 am 
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So after going through a motor rebuild the car is back in action. Runs great, big thanks to Jamalspelling for the pistons.

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Pretty sure I got a nice seal leak from the trans, does this axle look like it's seated all the way in?
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Once I get the leak fixed I'll be installing a boost gauge and a aem wideband.


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:39 am 
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That's some clean T3 you got there. :D
Engine bay looks nice, wish I had so much room under the hood for that oil catch can. I have A/C and no room for it on that side of engine bay


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:05 am 
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Thanks! Nothing like a quick wash then polishing session. Before the rebuild I always noticed oil in the lines from the valve cover to the turbo inlet track. eBay special less than $20.


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:04 am 
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Congrats!
Looks great!

Turn up the boost for some fun!


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
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Looks great...gets me motivated to get started on the one I have out in the shed.

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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:00 pm 
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Almost got a thousand miles on it since the rebuild thanks to my horrible commute everyday. Car runs great. I have noticed though once the car warms up after a long drive and i pop it into neutral the motor goes to idle (like at a stop light) some blueish smoke will emit from the tailpipe. Its not alot (not a blown turbo billowing), my friend at work said give it some more time to seal up but i am thinking it might be the valve stems.

I bought the head fully rebuilt but had been sitting for years, is it possible that the valve stem seals dried out? I will be doing a compression check/ leak down test with an oil change this weekend to see whats up.

Oh and a new deck with a 8" subwoofer sounds great in our little cars!


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
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I used to live in Renton,...are you in the highlands by chance?


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Yep, i grew up in the highlands


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
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We should do a mini meet sometime! haha


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:26 am 
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Super nice car. I like that oil catch can, its needed if you drive the thing with the pedal to the metal like I do all the time. Looking at those pics gets me motivated to get cracking on mine, which will be right after I finish getting my '74 Dodge PowerWagon and car trailer squared away. I also want to try out the simple and effective mods and performance upgrades JamalSpelling suggested, I totally like the idea of understanding this engine and turbo so well that you know how to squeeze more power out of what you already have rather than spending wads of cash on expensive performance parts because the beauty of these Mark1 turbos is how you can get such good performance out of such a simple and lightweight econobox. It drives those lardassses in their $60,000 pickups berserk when I pass them and pull in front of them in my 400 dollar econobox. Just the other day at the South end of the Mission bridge I saw one of those clown's bright red brand new Dodge Rams wrapped around a steel light pole that was buried 2 feet into the front of his truck.( the light pole didn't move one millimeter) Your Dodge Ram is a truck stupid, my 400 dollar '87 Sprint turbo is a kick ass sportscar. ( And so is my 800 dollar '87 Suzuki Forsa turbo, and my 400 dollar '88 Suzuki Forsa turbo, and 750 dollar '88 Pontiac firefly turbo, and 600 dollar '87 firefly turbo, although they're all broken down right now.)


@ MKC62, I didn't know you had a Mk1 turbo, I'm looking forward to seeing some excellent write-ups on the work you do on your turbo like that MCS carb modification write-up you did.


And that axle does look seated all the way, if I'm remembering correctly. I'll take a look at one of my correctly seated axles in the morning and let you know.


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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:14 am 
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Decided to change the weather seal on my windshield today because of rust issues. Started to take off the windshield and crack, a nice 6 inch crack appeared lol. Got a new windshield locally.
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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:56 pm 
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Got the duel catch tank setup up and running. New Pcv valve installed, fixed my water neck seepage.
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 Post subject: Re: T3 alive again!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:51 pm 
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Looking good :wink:

What was your preferred repair method for the rust
around the windshield?


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
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Corded power drill (cordless just didn't have the torque) with a wire wheel 3-4 inches long attached. Got all the rust down to bare metal and put some primer on it then jb welded the a pillar hole. Did some touch up painting with some red rust paint. Hardest part is getting the old seal off. * don't try to pry the windshield off at any point, mine cracked with little to no pressure. I asked the windshield replacement guys what they use and they use a horizontal razor blade or something that will cut the black seal from underneath the windshield.


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:58 am 
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With the gauges installed, might be moving the boost gauge up a little. Boost is a defi and the wideband is a AEM.
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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:51 pm 
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You can try the universal pillar mount for gauges, they can be trimmed to
fit and are fairly inexpensive.

I started with this single, then went to a double when I got the A/F gauge.

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When you installed the catch cans, had you considered only a single one for simplicity?
(and weight savings)
I would think it's possible to have only one in, then split the out into two-
One to PCV valve and other to the air intake tube. Since it's split coming out
of the valve cover, just cap one off then split it after the can?


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:23 pm 
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That is a very good point, I bet that would work out just as good if not better. What would happen if I just eliminated the Pcv valve all together and had the valve cover still be routed into the intake piping?


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:47 am 
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Actually, eliminating the PCV would be bad.

Never mind my 'thinking out loud' to streamline the catch cans,
you cannot accomplish the same function with just one.

A properly functioning PCV system increases engine longevity,
prevents the formation of sludge &
reduces emissions by removing harmful blow-by gases which contain
hydrocarbons & oil vapor. Otherwise these gases would be trapped in
the crankcase, or vented to the atmosphere causing smog.

Other than the emissions results, due to the design of the G10 T3
you cannot vent the crankcase..the car will not idle and die out.

The PCV system removes crankcase gases when the engine is under
vacuum and uses a 'flushing' action by bringing in fresh air from the intake
tube (note: this air has been metered by the VAF)
to help clear the blow-by from the crankcase, then sends it through
the intake via the PCV valve. When the motor is under boost, the
PCV valve closes and any blow-by is routed through the turbo intake.
That is why you see oil in the intercooler and charge lines.

A properly designed oil catch can has internal components to promote the
condensation of the oil mist and will help in reducing the build up of gunk
in the intake system by removing the oil mist before it reaches the intake.

I always kinda took it for granted and never questioned the OE Design
too much till I saw your set up with the cans, which in this case
2 is better than 1. I always wondered why so many of the spare motors
I dismantled had so much nasty crap built up inside, now it's perfectly clear.


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:21 pm 
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Had a nice oil leak coming from my valve cover. Pulled off the valve cover and notice two of the rocker arm cover screws were completely loose. Bought a manual impact screwdriver and took care of that. Decided to adjust the valves as well , good thing I did because they were completely out of tolerance. While reading the FSM it states to line up the crank/cam gear marks and look at distributor rotor (the way it's facing) mine was facing 180 degrees the opposite way so then it states to rotate the crank another 360 degrees and take another look at the rotor. This time it was in the correct position facing the intake manifold. Crank was at the 12 o'clock position but the cam gear was not at the 12 o'clock. Is this normal? Anyways I adjusted them anyway. Got them all in spec.

Also noticed I had worn all the silicone (down to the shielding)off my coil to distributor wire.


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:43 am 
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Definately use the crankshaft pulley notch as your reference starting point,
the rotor will more or less be in the position stated in the FSM.

Use the rotor only to determine your not off by 180, it's the timing
notch that is critical for placement when you adjust the valves.

Rotor position will vary due to the condition of your
centrifugal advance mechanism.
It's a sure bet your centrifugal advance springs are long gone &
the plate is frozen in the advance position, being held by the
grease on the distributor shaft pivot that has long since dried up
and become glue.


Those little rocker arm screws are pesky if they don't get secured.
I had one come loose and jam in the valve spring once creating
all sorts of havoc. You may want to consider loctite or
staking the screw.


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:21 pm 
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Got it started up today, all I can say is wow. The valve train noise was insanely loud before I adjusted the valves. Now it's quiet as can be. I am sure I'll see a power increase as It hasn't left the driveway yet.

Some of the valves were .020+ out of tolerance. Couldn't believe it.

Now
Intake .006
Exhaust .008


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 Post subject: Re: T3 build
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Next up replacing all the engine/trans mounts and doing the bearings/brakes.


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