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 Post subject: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:34 pm 
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Does anyone have a picture of a 87-88 turbo flywheel. I am having a clutch problem and way to see if there is any difference from a 91. They are listing 2 different clutches and want to know why

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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:42 am 
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They're probably looking up both the normally aspirated as well
as turbo application and coming up with 2 different part #'s
The Turbo clutch will interchange with the 1.0 and 1.3 motors.


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:25 am 
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87-88 T3 and 89-94 GTi clutch and flywheel are the same , probably even Canadian 89-94 T3 has the same clutch and flywheel


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:56 am 
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This is the flywheel from my '94 Swift 4DrSdn with a 1.3 and it uses exactly the same clutch kit that I put in my '87 Sprint turbo so I would assume they are exactly the same flywheel and interchangeable.

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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:43 am 
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well i have a 90 turbo and a 1.3L swift flywheel and they are the same. but for the clutch they list 2 different ones the pressure plate is the same but disk its self is different. the problem im having is the pressure plate springs are hitting the disk when you push the clutch in and its not disengaging.

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92 geo metro 1.0L 5 spd. 2 dr Soon to be my turbo swap car. (Dragonfly) sold
91 pontiac firefly, 1.0L 2dr auto. stock. (The crap can) sold
91 chevy sprint. 1.0L 5 spd. My first turbo swap. (Red rocket) now the purple nurple
95 geo metro. 1.3L auto parts car. (Scrap)
91 chevy sprint turbo, blueboy keeping it "stock"


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:01 pm 
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The clutch kit I put in my '87 Sprint turbo was an NKK clutch kit I bought at NAPA in 2009. I think NKK stands for Nippon clutch company. It had " made in Japan" stamped on the parts and worked great with no problems.

I couldn't find the same NKK clutch kit online just now but I did find an Exedy clutch kit at Rock auto's website (Exedy is the OEM clutch) but the Exedy clutch kit part numbers are different for the '87 Sprint turbo and '94 Swift 4DrSdn with 1.3 so maybe I was mistaken when I said they both used the same clutch kit.

What brand of clutch kit and part number are you using?


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:03 pm 
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lightened, surface ground, and zero balanced. :wink:

i'm getting ready to produce 3 more.

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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:31 am 
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Looking to sell one of them??


The clutch kits I get local (lordco) are new generation (ams)


Www.showmetheparts.com/ams
They list either a 04-100 or 04-101. The one I got was the 40-100 but I needed the 40-101.

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91 chevy sprint. 1.0L 5 spd. My first turbo swap. (Red rocket) now the purple nurple
95 geo metro. 1.3L auto parts car. (Scrap)
91 chevy sprint turbo, blueboy keeping it "stock"


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
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Are you sure you have your clutch adjusted right? Any chance it's pushing the fingers in to far and hitting the disk springs? I've seen that once or twice before

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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
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t3 ragtop wrote:
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lightened, surface ground, and zero balanced. :wink:

I'll see your flywheel and raise you one :lol:
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SZD005 is the code i think for the Daiken Exedy clutch.


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t3 ragtop wrote:
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lightened, surface ground, and zero balanced. :wink:

i'm getting ready to produce 3 more.



Well, maybe those fancy schmansy lightweight flywheels work fine for you guys who race your cars on racetracks and such, but if I had one of those children's flywheels in my cars I would have it warped to shit in no time. I need to have all that cast iron you guys remove left on the flywheel where Suzuki engineers put it to absorb all the heat I produce driving the piss out of my cars, as in about three stop and go burnouts every 200 meters in my daily driving.


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:00 am 
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redneck racing wrote:


The clutch kits I get local (lordco) are new generation (ams)




Hmmm. The reason I asked is because before I bought the clutch kit for my '87 Sprint Turbo I researched clutches on Teamswift and recalled reading about people who'd had problems with aftermarket clutch kits. Problems that sounded kind of like the one you're having. Which is why I decided to go with the OEM Exedy Daikin clutch kit. But I couldn't easily find it locally so that's why I went with the NKK because its made in Japan, just like the Exedy Daikin.


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
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coasterII wrote:
t3 ragtop wrote:
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lightened, surface ground, and zero balanced. :wink:

i'm getting ready to produce 3 more.



Well, maybe those fancy schmansy lightweight flywheels work fine for you guys who race your cars on racetracks and such, but if I had one of those children's flywheels in my cars I would have it warped to shit in no time. I need to have all that cast iron you guys remove left on the flywheel where Suzuki engineers put it to absorb all the heat I produce driving the piss out of my cars, as in about three stop and go burnouts every 200 meters in my daily driving.


You're showing your inexperience again. Those are daily driver cars that would take on any comers from light to light all day and they are using double your horse power (at minimum). Would you like a race? I'm available in the early spring. If you can beat me (for dollars spent {we'll cap it at $2G} in a best 1/4 mile time average for a day (if you make it that far). We walk away with the other persons inventory if we win. Scrap metal is at a decent price so I could recoup my money quickly because I know a salvage guy or three down there.

When does Mission open in 2015?


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Do you have a picture of the flywheel you are trying to put this clutch kit on? I see in your first post both the cars you have are non turbo 3 bangers. I know for a fact, because I own heaps of them, that, at least in 1985 to 1988 Mk1s, the 3 banger non turbo flywheel is VERY, VERY different from the 3 banger turbo flywheel, and though I never tried it, I seriously doubt a 3banger turbo pressure plate is going to even fit on a 3 banger non turbo flywheel.


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:08 am 
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top down@-40 wrote:
coasterII wrote:
t3 ragtop wrote:
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lightened, surface ground, and zero balanced. :wink:

i'm getting ready to produce 3 more.



Well, maybe those fancy schmansy lightweight flywheels work fine for you guys who race your cars on racetracks and such, but if I had one of those children's flywheels in my cars I would have it warped to shit in no time. I need to have all that cast iron you guys remove left on the flywheel where Suzuki engineers put it to absorb all the heat I produce driving the piss out of my cars, as in about three stop and go burnouts every 200 meters in my daily driving.


You're showing your inexperience again. Those are daily driver cars that would take on any comers from light to light all day and they are using double your horse power (at minimum). Would you like a race? I'm available in the early spring. If you can beat me (for dollars spent {we'll cap it at $2G} in a best 1/4 mile time average for a day. We walk away with the other persons inventory if we win. Scrap metal is at a decent price so I could recoup my money quickly because I know a salvage guy or three down there.

When does Mission open in 2015?



Which just goes to show what being condemned to reside in bumfuck nowhere Prince George with minimal human contact does to a person's brain. It was a joke. No thanks to the race, I've got better better things to do with my time.


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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:31 am 
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i drive my cars on the streets in the summer seasons here using those flywheels. :wink:

i build cruisers not racers and i drive them without any issues in the city and on the highway. :lol:

dattman, i've seen that skeletonized steel flywheel. i like it and i'd like to machine one up some day. the only thing holding me back is the double fisted cash throwdown. :-P

i already get about a $300us combined bill from my machinist, drive line guy, and vibration analysis guy for the ones in my pics. :blackeye:

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They are wellworth the $300.00 bucks to! Mine work awesome.

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scotty, i think that it's safe to say that it's perfectly normal for this type of porn to cause the response you're having. :lol:

i mean i know that you're freaky and all but you can take it from the carrot king that you are our kind of freaky. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: need flywheel pic
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codyb76 wrote:
Are you sure you have your clutch adjusted right? Any chance it's pushing the fingers in to far and hitting the disk springs? I've seen that once or twice before



It was adjusted right. The problem was the springs were to close to begin with and I could not push them in far enough to release the pressure plate before they hit the disk. The other clutch kit disk had about a 1/4 more clearance

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92 geo metro 1.0L 5 spd. 2 dr Soon to be my turbo swap car. (Dragonfly) sold
91 pontiac firefly, 1.0L 2dr auto. stock. (The crap can) sold
91 chevy sprint. 1.0L 5 spd. My first turbo swap. (Red rocket) now the purple nurple
95 geo metro. 1.3L auto parts car. (Scrap)
91 chevy sprint turbo, blueboy keeping it "stock"


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coasterII wrote:
Do you have a picture of the flywheel you are trying to put this clutch kit on? I see in your first post both the cars you have are non turbo 3 bangers. I know for a fact, because I own heaps of them, that, at least in 1985 to 1988 Mk1s, the 3 banger non turbo flywheel is VERY, VERY different from the 3 banger turbo flywheel, and though I never tried it, I seriously doubt a 3banger turbo pressure plate is going to even fit on a 3 banger non turbo flywheel.



No. A non turbo clutch will not fit a turbo. It's on a 91 non turbo car that I swapped a turbo motor from a 90 into. And because of this problem we just ran the stock non turbo clutch ( lasted about 4 months) so now I have to put a new clutch in it and didn't want to spend another $150 because I have been unemployed for 11 months. So trying to work with what I have

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92 geo metro 1.0L 5 spd. 2 dr Soon to be my turbo swap car. (Dragonfly) sold
91 pontiac firefly, 1.0L 2dr auto. stock. (The crap can) sold
91 chevy sprint. 1.0L 5 spd. My first turbo swap. (Red rocket) now the purple nurple
95 geo metro. 1.3L auto parts car. (Scrap)
91 chevy sprint turbo, blueboy keeping it "stock"


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Dattman wrote:
t3 ragtop wrote:
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lightened, surface ground, and zero balanced. :wink:

I'll see your flywheel and raise you one :lol:
Attachment:
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SZD005 is the code i think for the Daiken Exedy clutch.




Now that is hot.

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91 pontiac firefly, 1.0L 2dr auto. stock. (The crap can) sold
91 chevy sprint. 1.0L 5 spd. My first turbo swap. (Red rocket) now the purple nurple
95 geo metro. 1.3L auto parts car. (Scrap)
91 chevy sprint turbo, blueboy keeping it "stock"


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redneck racing wrote:
coasterII wrote:
Do you have a picture of the flywheel you are trying to put this clutch kit on? I see in your first post both the cars you have are non turbo 3 bangers. I know for a fact, because I own heaps of them, that, at least in 1985 to 1988 Mk1s, the 3 banger non turbo flywheel is VERY, VERY different from the 3 banger turbo flywheel, and though I never tried it, I seriously doubt a 3banger turbo pressure plate is going to even fit on a 3 banger non turbo flywheel.



No. A non turbo clutch will not fit a turbo. It's on a 91 non turbo car that I swapped a turbo motor from a 90 into. And because of this problem we just ran the stock non turbo clutch ( lasted about 4 months) so now I have to put a new clutch in it and didn't want to spend another $150 because I have been unemployed for 11 months. So trying to work with what I have


Sounds like being between a rock and a hard place. I hope some of the other teamswifters here, who are way, way more knowledgable and experienced on wrenching these cars than I am, can help you sort this out. I don't have any 1990 turbo cars or turbo parts or turbo engines. All my turbo cars and turbo stuff is '87 and '88. And I have zero turbo or non turbo clutch discs lying around.


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The 3 cyl non turbo clutch and flywheel is a lot smaller than the 3cyl turbo/4cyl should it's quite obvious, I know the turbo/4cyl clutch has a diameter of 190mm and I have seen listings for it also wrongly include the 3 cyl non turbo.

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I think I have a turbo Mk2 flywheel kicking around here that I'd give you for the cost of Greyhound from Prince George. Let me know if you want it and if you can wait 'til I dig it out. I think it's still attached to the turbo block I have buried under one of my workbenches.


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