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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:37 pm 
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Just finished the rebuild on my distributor. Took a ton of pictures and plan on posting the rebuild for others. My issue now is I can not get less than 12 deg adv. vacuume advance is unhooked and the lines plugged. I'm guessing the timing belt is off a tooth? Does that sound right? If so which way should I go with it? Please help want to ride this weekend.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:57 pm 
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Sorry that's 20 deg advance not 12 I had a brain fart.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:25 pm 
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Looking forward to your rebuild thread...


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:30 pm 
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I'm gonna get on it tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:23 am 
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Opposites are the rule of thumb when correcting for timing belt advance or retard.

If your cam is too advanced (with respect to the crankshaft) you'll move it counter-clockwise a tooth.

In your case, do not worry at all about the pistons hitting the valves due to the design of the engine.
However, if you've decked the head and are still worried about it, you can move the whole assembly by hand using a wrench on the crankshaft bolt and make sure there is no interference.

Looking at the engine from the passenger side (North America) concentrate on the distance along the front of the timing belt from the camshaft to the crankshaft when adjusting your mechanical valve timing. Shorten the distance if your valve timing is retarded, lengthen it if the valve timing is advanced.

If your distributor can't advance enough, your valves may be 'behind' the crankshaft and are said to be 'retarded'. In this case you'd take up (reduce) a tooth in the space between the cam and crankshaft along the 'front' of the timing belt.

I may have this backwards, but as mentioned above you won't hurt your three cylinder engine in any case from interference as there is none. So give it a try and let us know which way was the solution.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:36 am 
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Thank you. So I'm assuming my cam is advanced as I can't get any less timing than 20.
So I should move it one tooth as u described? Was hoping to do it today but looks like rain again.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:43 am 
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Ok. I can see it in my head now. Took me a minute. Camshaft counter clock wise one tooth sounds right. Just had to wrap my head around it. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:45 am 
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Confused myself. Clock wise one tooth as it's too advanced?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:17 pm 
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If it (the top end) is too advanced, you would need to retard it, correct?

To retard the cam (with respect to the crankshaft) you would add a tooth to the front length of the timing belt.
So I'm thinking counter clockwise with the camshaft one tooth, looking at the engine from the water pump pulley side.

Again, no harm done if that's the wrong advice.
You'd simply go two teeth in the other direction if wrong.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:56 pm 
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Im a little slow sometimes. Once i pictured the distributor rotation it fell in place in my head. I appreciate your patience with my slow learning.
I hope to get to it tomorrow and will let you know how it turns out.
Thank you Edd

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:04 pm 
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Got it. Turned the cam counter clockwise 1 cog. With the cam and crank marks lined up I turned it one cog counter clockwise. Went ahead and set base timing to 6deg ,,with the vacuume advance hooked up I'm getting 12 deg. Gonna try that and see how it feels.
Now to move on to my next issue. Time for a new post. Gonna get it yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:46 am 
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Just adjusted the valves since I changed the cam timing. Runs quieter now. All were just a tad loose since doing the cam timing.

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