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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:57 am 
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Need to know how to properly stagger a set of NPR piston rings. Got the block on the bench crank torqued in and need to know this ASAP.
Please help me Edd

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:29 pm 
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I stagger them like OEM.

The older factory service manuals give the technique, but basically, you go 120 degrees with each ring as you go down the bore.

If you weren't in a hurry, someone could post a picture of the FSM.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:48 pm 
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Thank you. Did exactly as you described. I appreciate the fast reply.
Thanks again Edd

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:02 pm 
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For a new member, you sure are a good sport.

A lot of the newbies have off the wall questions but don't seem to be able to find their cell phone, take a picture and upload it.
(Same is true of a few older hold-outs.)
The older the car, it seems the stranger the new members with their phantom problems.
You, on the other hand seem to be a pretty straight shooter.

Since you've been pretty decent, I cracked open a 1985 Service Manual and here ya go:
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Those boys really split hairs when they put together an engine, eh?

Sorry, this is the soonest I could get to the books.

In the past, Teamswift had a couple of sections which may be missing these days.
One was a section where you could find uploads of factory service manual pages.
Another was a section where you could upload to a database of member's cars and other technical information.
The bullets don't exist on our current TEAMSWIFT INDEX PAGE, or if they do, they've been moved.
So I have to be careful not to tell you to look it up in the technical section anymore. :oops:

That may explain why someone recently asked for an electronic copy of the FSM.
You used to be able to find it in that section which probably exists, but for some reason has been buried.

An older Chilton will give you that exact diagram for the 85-91 and two different diagrams for

a.) 92-3 Base and LSI Metro

and

b.) 92-3 XFi models.

Nippon Piston Rings are holding up quite well in our cars using full synthetic and keeping the engine temperature within specs.
We're talking over 8 years in one engine, and that car is a daily driver.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:35 pm 
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I gotta say I do appreciate the time you spent on the pictures.
I started reading posts on here befor I ever posted anything. One inpiticular stood out to me.
A fellow was having an issue but would not follow anyone's advice. A member told him if he would just follow there advice they would get him straitened out. Said it may take some time but they had the knowledge on the board to help him. I don't think he ever cought on.
Another one people were begging for pictures to try to help someone and I think they finally gave up on him.
I spent months following diagnostic advice I found in other posts before I had to start asking my own questions.
I guess my point is if the question is worth asking than the advice is worth following and that's what I try to do.
I enjoy the board and the people on here. I enjoy tinkering and always playing with a engine.
Although I'm not a typical sprint owner I have great respect for the engines and I think my buggy is a tribute to the power and versatility of them.

So now my delima is. I'd didn't orient the rings as pictured. The block is bolted in but it is in a buggy and can be removed in an hour or so. Should I pull it and fix the rings? You say it and I'll do it.
You're insight is appreciated.
Edd

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:57 pm 
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Should add the head is not on yet. It's at the machine shop getting new valve seats cut and Superfly has the cam. So I have plenty of time to fix it. I think I just answered my own question but would still appreciate the advice. Thanks Edd

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:02 pm 
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If you have time, you might as well pull the pistons and reorient the rings. :thumbsup:

Can you just pull the oil pan and avoid unbolting the block?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:22 pm 
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That was my thought too. It's in a buggy and there is no room under the pan. I can pull 10 bolts and lift it right out. My stupidity kills me some times but that seems to be how I have to learn. I'm getting good at pulling out though.
Thank you. Edd

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