TeamSwift

Home of the Suzuki mini-compacts ! Your Home for all things Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, Holden Barina, Chevy Sprint, Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Cultus. TeamSwift is a technical performance oriented community!
It is currently Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:56 am

Underbody braces, turbos and more!

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am
Posts: 10
Location: Las vegas
So new owner. Let's see how I got to this point!

Bought Turbo Sprint. Ran ok. Drove it 150miles home no problems. Found some rotted vac lines, few splice in wiring deals and some butt connectors. Falling in love with this thing and the dream of awesomeness I went ahead and bought

New bosch cap n rotor, bosch plugwires, ngk plugs, re ran new vac lines and plugged things like charcoal canister/smog stuff. Hooked the intake back up. The prev owner removed the intercooler so it was easier to work on so looking for the rubber ic hoses for that(is just turbo to throttle body now)

So go to start and cranking and very shitty trying to run. Touching the gas seems to help and keeping it cranking gave it almost hope to continue but just fighting to start. Checked around more. Found a bigger vac line disconnected behind the tb on the driver side. Plug that. Still same. Looked at fuses and everything was still good. I noticed the prev owner has another ecu ziptied up right next to the orig ecu. Figured I would plug it back into that. Go to crank and heard a elec pop sound and now there is no power to anything.

Checked battery good
Checked on the other side of the fuseable links and has power
Checked the ign fuse in the fuse panel and 0 at the fuse.
When turning the key over, can hear a slight relayish noise in what sounds like the ign switch/column area
Swapped the harness back into the 2nd ecu and still same.

Is there more fuses somewhere else?
I'm going to post some pics of the engine bay and such. If I can't get it back going it's going to be forsale shortly.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am
Posts: 10
Location: Las vegas
When removing anything. I first traced where things went to make sure I wasn't eliminating a connection of some sort from the original wiring path. Removed a/c cleanly. Nothing out of he norm. It wasn't working. Still have it all.

Tried to do things 1 at a time. Just trying to simplify things and make cleaner looking on the routing. Ill post some pics if anything jumps out.
Image

New cap/rotor/plugs/wires. Cap only goes on 1 way. Read the #1 goes at 1oclock. Didn't know which was things spun so tested the 2-3 both ways but now have it this way.

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am
Posts: 10
Location: Las vegas
Checked and have spark going into the cap. And also on each wire at each plug end.

Fuel looked old and nasty but did fill a full tank before driving home. Havent touched anything but replaced both fuel lines because the old ones were a bit dry. Might need to test pressure but as I said I just touched the lines and everything started and drove just fine prior.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am
Posts: 10
Location: Las vegas
Random engine bay pics in case i'm retarded and missed he obvious

[UImageRL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/gotxqss/media/Turbo%20Sprint/D0E0A020-8F36-4567-9184-409CF7B5682D.jpg.html]Image[/URL]

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:10 am
Posts: 340
Location: Palm Springs, Calif
Spark plug wires on wrong?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am
Posts: 10
Location: Las vegas
If the order in the pic is wrong?

Searched and confirmed
#1 cyl is cyl closest to dist and #3 is belts side
#1 is at 1oclock on the cap
The cap says "2" and "3" next to the posts which go to correct plugs
Firing order everywhere said 1-3-2 so guessing the rotor spins counter clockwise

Tested spark comig off coil and tested at each plug wire at the plug

Going to get a fuelpressure gauge/tester on there to see


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:58 pm 
Offline
Island Inbreeder
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:56 pm
Posts: 6347
Location: Emerald city Washington
I agree with the doctor your sparkplugs are out of order here is a picture of a N/A but there both the same order
.
.
.
Image
.
.
here's a link to the turbo factory manual ..THE LINK WORKS 3-29-16
.
.
.
jaguar,vettes&sprints wrote:
CJDavE wrote:

.
as of today this link for the Chevy sprint turbo manual works....jv&s
.
.
.

.
.
YOU NEED to look at page 6D-5
.
.........jv&s
.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:28 pm
Posts: 1170
Location: So Cal, USA
So, for better continuity, you might want to stick with your original posting.
Anyway, yup, you got your cylinders in reverse.
#1 is closest to fender.

Attachment:
FIRORDER.jpg
FIRORDER.jpg [ 79.68 KIB | Viewed 2185 times ]


So if you're so intent on removing stuff, I want you to send everything you
removed to me, I'll pay the shipping, even send you a prepaid label.

Couple thoughts...ziptied computer? WTF?
Needs to be bolted in place, also something to do with grounding the case.
You removed the Idle Air Control, you'll have better results under an
electrical load with the IAC intact.
MK1 T3's are a little finicky, start messing with the charcoal filter and
you'll have fueling problems on corners. I'm not the only one who discovered this.

Attachment:
hoodsticker.jpg
hoodsticker.jpg [ 199.92 KIB | Viewed 2185 times ]


There's other ways to save on weight. If it were me I'd put it all back together
the way it was meant to be, and get it running real smooth. You don't need to delete
a bunch of crap to produce HP. You can still have a fairly busy engine compartment
and have both aesthetics and power.

Image


Before my rebuild, I was dynoed at 125 WHP, if I ever get my shit together and
get it back on the Dyno, I figure maybe 150.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:35 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am
Posts: 10
Location: Las vegas
Well must have searched and read a wrong thread. Sure it said #1 was closest to the dist. Well that would be a pretty big issue. Will swap it in the morning and should fire up. Should!

Only real thing that got removed was the A/C. Have it al!

The stock ecu is in its normal position. Guessing through some owners someone thought the ecu was bad and plugged in the new one and just hung it up there with a ziptie. Will be removing one and having that properly installed.

Only thing keeping me up right now is the ic rubber piping pieces. Guessing those arn't very common. Will look around for new ones. Would love to get it running perfect before upgrading or changing a bunch.

See how it goes tomorrow. Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:35 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am
Posts: 10
Location: Las vegas
Well. Weird behavior but tested a few spots with coltage and was having voltage drop soon as the key was turned over. Traced it to shit connection on the battery terminal. New terminals and cleaned everything and good as gold.

Just adjusted the tps and go rid of the on/off bog on part throttle. So like that!

Next is getting the intercooler back on there. Trying to find a way to test timing since the car is missing the timing covers. Anyone got any?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:28 pm
Posts: 1170
Location: So Cal, USA
Dorman 635-702 is the correct timing cover.
About $23 on Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Timing-Cover-Dorman-635-702-fits-89-94-Suzuki-Swift-1-3L-L4-/271848552671?hash=item3f4b6fb8df:g:zEkAAOSwMmBVpC8S&vxp=mtr


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group