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MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?
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Author:  CMA [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

Did I set at wrong timing of 5 degree?! :shock:

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I always thought 5 degree on both NA and T3.


I am planning to advance ignition timing much as it can without ping.... Is 12' degree for T3 too much? Even at 20' degree ?!

Author:  suprf1y [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

12 is fine.

No G10 should ever be set at 5 degrees BTDC

Author:  CMA [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

Actually I know that T3 has knock sensor but I am curious what is max degree :shock: (I am not able to find that more information)



Really? 5 degree is the factory (on the hood) so what is your recommend on G10 and G13BA? 8-10?


I am pretty sure that advance is better for low-mid range... meanwhile retard is better for mid-high range.... Maybe T3 is different because too much advance would be less power at mid-range. :huh:

Author:  codyb76 [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

I have ran 10degrees and it worked well with good power and no pinging. I think there will be a power increase bumping timing from 5 up to 10deg

Author:  CMA [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

Yes I remember I did 10' degree a while ago... I know I did set at 5' degree last year.


I just don't realize that factory setting is 12. So I am curious about max + degree timing without any loss the power.

Author:  suprf1y [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

Run 10-12 and it will make more power everywhere. Reduced timing is not better for top end power

Author:  CMA [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

Alright I will do 10-12' Thanks.

Another interesting note that SuzukiTom took a picture of his T3 hood and it shows 5' :shock:

Here is a proof.

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I better follow the manual then.

Author:  codyb76 [ Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

Very interesting. I wonder if they used 5deg for emissions purposes on most of the models? The consensus(sp??), is certainly that most all of the g-series are quite happy and perform better at 10deg or so.

Author:  CMA [ Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MK2 Turbo3 Ignition Timing - 12 degree?

I am not too sure but SuzukiTom points out...

SuzukiTom wrote:
I noticed that the FSM (T3 EFI Turbo System) supplement page you referenced does not specify whether the timing check is performed with the DLC jumper pins shorted. This could explain why the FSM timing value is stated as approximately 12 degrees BTDC instead of the 5 degrees BTDC value in the hood emissions sticker with the DLC jumper shorted.



Well I agreed that G10 should be happy with 10+ degree.

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