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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:12 pm 
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Hi I just wanted everyone know that Delta Camshaft in Tacoma, Wa 253-572-2474 can regrind your stock base or non xfi can to Exact XFI cam specs for around $50.00. I gained 8 mpg with it. Thanks James


So with that bit of information I found their website. http://www.deltacam.com and it looks like this is the real thing. So anyone that has a 3 cyl and is looking for a cam this is the easiest way to get one. Could find a stock metro cam pretty easy out of a junkyard or wherever and send it in to get it reground then swap into your car when you get time. The Xfi cam will work fine without changing computers or anything else.

If anyone calls them and gets any more information or has their cam ground please let everyone know about it. I am sure there would be a pretty good demand for XFi spec cams with gas prices always going up.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:29 pm 
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I was at the junk yard today and I saw an XFI cam right in front of me. All of the intake was gone, but the motor was still there. The valve cover was probably on the ground, but it was an XFI just like the one on ebay now. Of course the stupid jerks tore it all apart not realizing it was a gem.

I saw about 15 metros and two sprints today at ecology in Phoenix. I could not believe it. I even saw some verts. I don't understand why they end up at the junk yard! Drive them! Fix them! There was one 87 sprint that had 45K miles, but sure enough it was in the junk yard!

Sorry if I just jacked your thread. If you want the cam, let me know by tonight!

Anything else you'll need?

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:53 pm 
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I am also in search for an XFI cam in the local boneyards, but no luck yet.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:12 pm 
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i will be sending my lsi cam there tomorrow (thursday). i had a broken piston, which will call for a full rebuild, and might as well try the xfi camshaft. i have 91 metro, 4 dr. auto, and have been getting around 36-38 mpg with the a/c on in the afternoon. hopefully the xfi cam will put me well into the 40's on a regular basis. the only time i got 40 was the middle of last summer when my a/c quit. i will post results as they happen. glad i found this site. thanks.


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:20 pm 
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Keep in mind that it will be similar to the xfi cam, but not exactly the same.
I'd be willing to bet that the opening/closing events will be off by 4-6 degrees.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:33 pm 
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There is nothing that can be done to a stock cam to get XFI cam effects?

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:29 pm 
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I picked up the 92 XFI cam from the junk yard. $30 plus shipping and it's yours.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:17 pm 
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I have not called them to see if they grind the profile based on the keyway or lobe centerline so it could either be ground identical to an xfi or 4-6 degrees retarded from a stock xfi.

But it might be better being retarded a few degrees that way the 10 degree advance pulley sold here would be ideal for it. Otherwise it would need a 4-5 degree advance sprocket to make it perfect.

I will probably send a cam in this summer to them and see how it looks but I figure for 50 bucks and the ease of finding a stock cam it is no big loss if they suck. But if they do a good job then that pretty much solves the problem of people having to pay 300 for a cam off ebay if they can't find one any other way.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:23 pm 
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Is this thing working? Hello? =)

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:48 pm 
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Darrell ----i'm interested in the xfi camshaft. do you have a digital micrometer to measure the cam lobes?? thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:56 pm 
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Thanks for the replies everybody. There was some glitch in the system and responses were slow at first (I'm kidding) but later I got a few responses. Metro Muscle replied first so the cam is spoken for. I wish I had more.

Darrell

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:11 pm 
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Coyote X Hi Rick been reading your post on your vert on ECOMODDER
good job on the car and the post very cool !!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:46 am 
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car looks a bit better now :)

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That was the best picture I could find of the bare frame.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:39 pm 
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Wow! That is awesome!

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:30 am 
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How much to do mine :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:25 am 
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Does anyone have any miles yet on a stock cam that has been ground to XFI Specs?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:50 am 
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well seeing as how mike sells an economy cam which is basically going to be the same thing as that other cam grinding place, ill say yeah, and theres been results posted too

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:12 pm 
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Hi all,

When I first saw the note posted about Delta Cams, I thought the name sounded familiar.

Finally I clicked on their web site and sure enough, I remembered why I recognized the name.

The owner Jon Bodwell used to work for me about 10 years ago.

I stopped by this week to visit with him and to discuss Metro cams and valve overlap.

His shop on Tacoma Ave in Tacoma overlooking the Port of Tacoma is simply "camshaft central"

Jon told me the cost to grind an XFI profile on a standard metro cam is actually $72.50 (he did the first one for 50 bucks for the guy who initiated the idea)

He also told me he generally has 10-15 standard Metro cams in stock as cores for 30 bucks each

Anyway.....Jon is a solid Guy who has helped many many people over the years with cams for all kinds of engines

Regards,

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:16 pm 
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soooo
at $4/gal and 50mpg, we pay 8 cents per mi.
the cam is 72+30 core= $100 to get 8mpg (too optimistic?)
at $4/gal and 58mpg, we pay 6.9 cents per mi.
saves 8-6.9=1.1 cents/mi
$100 = 10,000 cents
so the cam cost is paid back in 9,091 miles. assuming our labor is free :lol:
plus shipping.

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