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 Post subject: New Chevrolet
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:06 pm 
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From a GM news article::

GM President and Chief Operating Officer Fritz Henderson said the new small car to be built in Lordstown would get 9 miles per gallon better fuel economy than the company's current small cars, the Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5 when equipped with a manual transmission. The most efficient Cobalt now gets 36 miles per gallon on the highway, although Henderson would not give a total mileage number.

It would be powered by a 1- to 1.4-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine that could be turbocharged for additional power, GM said. The new engine would be built in Flint.

Like a Geo Metro....????????

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:07 am 
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Let us all hope and pray. A turbo 1L 4cylinder with a 5speed trans would be nice. Shit I'd be happy with them making mk2-3 XFI metros again new. With direct injection and modern electronics they might be able to squeeze out some more mpg for sure. Flex fuel metro would be sweet.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:04 am 
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in flint?!? :huh: where the hell at?? all our gm plants are basically slabs of concrete in a field with the exception of the truck and bus plant
and even large sections of that one has been torn down


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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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[quote="dale50000"]From a GM news article::

It would be powered by a 1- to 1.4-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine that could be turbocharged for additional power, GM said. The new engine would be built in Flint.

This quote was in the article from GM ..........

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:23 pm 
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in flint?!? :huh: where the hell at?? all our gm plants are basically slabs of concrete in a field with the exception of the truck and bus plant
and even large sections of that one has been torn down

WTF tear it down and build it up 4 yrs later. Dats why da crap cars cost 30k. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:51 pm 
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A critical question will be... how much will it weigh.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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AkcapSWIFT wrote:
A critical question will be... how much will it weigh.


Thats not a question.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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A critical question will be... how much will it weigh?

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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I didnt know anything about the Cobalt until read the July '08 Car&Driver. p 126 i guess -- too hard to number every page?
SS model: "mighty turbo, fabulous Brembo brakes, numb steering, so-so interior."
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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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You can say what you want about the Cobalt turbo, but compare it to what else is out there right now.
I wish it were a little cheaper, but its fast, looks good (subjectively) handles well, and is reliable.
The base models actually get very impressive gas mileage.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:53 pm 
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AkcapSWIFT wrote:
A critical question will be... how much will it weigh?

Another critical question would be... how much will it cost?
Plus todays economy and gas prices they are gonna rape us on it, that is for sure. A new, high MPG car, everyone is gonna be wanting it. Imagine if the Metro would have came out now. Used one are going for as much a 7k on ebay. I would love another 1991 Xfi with about 10 miles on it. :mrgreen: But I am not paying 25-35k for it.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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Well isnt the chevy Aveo powered by the 1.4L ?

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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Well isnt the chevy Aveo powered by the 1.4L ?


The Aveo is a Daewoo piece of junk powered by a 1.6L. In fact, I think it gets WORSE gas mileage then the base cobalt in city driving (IIRC). It was either that or the Pontiac Vibe/Toyota matrix that is better then it.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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Daewoo? really...hm...well thanks for that piece of information!


hey dale do you have a link to that article?

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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I thought it was funny that when the Aveo was a Daewoo, the gas mileage rating on it was somewhere 20s. As soon as it was rebadged as a GM, gas mileage ratings jumped into the 30s. Odd.

At any rate, the turbocharged cobalt is probably capable of better gas mileage than the base models... if you didn't get on it for an entire tank! Thanks to our relatively new friend finally on the market, direct injection. Look at the gas mileage thread on the cobalt forum and some guys are even approaching 40mpg! Direct injection paves the way for ultra-lean capabilites/modes.

The new 1.4L they speak of will be a direct injection unit and I would bet that there will be a turbocharged version instead of there 'may' be one.

I'd seriously consider a cobalt SS as a commuter vehicle... a couple years old and their cheap... the downside would be the looks.

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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Believe it or not, the Aveo weighs in at a whopping 3100 lbs :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: New Chevrolet
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Holy crap, that can't possibly be right, can it? No, it's 2,350 for the five door, 2,550 for the sedan.

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