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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:44 pm 
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Hello everyone this is my first time postin. :wink: I just bought an Xfi for $440 about a week ago with 158k on it. I changed plugs, wires, oil, airfilter, pcv, seafoamed it, set tires a 40psi. (even though sidewall says 35 max) Cleaned out egr and passages for egr. And I only averaged 35.8 mpg over 84 miles of 80% city. Does this sound right it was originally rated at 51 city, 58 hwy. What should I do next to figure out why mileage is low. This tank I am trying some p&g so I may have better. Thanks, Bob

P.S. I will post picks of her (the car) tomorrow. After midnight now. And I plan to own her for awhile. :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:22 am 
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Hello everyone this is my first time postin. :wink: I just bought an Xfi for $440 about a week ago :D
You STOLE it for that price! :shock: Good find! 8)

XFi's are bring BIG $$$ on EBay these day! Nice one's bringing $4-5000+ !


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:50 am 
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Good find. I also have a story like yours, found a GTi for $350 running (4th owner). :lol: 8) Welcome.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:22 am 
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That's only two gallons! Far too little to try and get reliable mpg numbers. It's easy to be half a gallon off from fill to fill. Nothing less than a full tank is meaningful, preferably three full tanks without a huge difference to make sure you didn't underfill or overfill one time or the other. A tank of gas is ten gallons.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:41 am 
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Congrats. Run a few tanks through it like posted above. Then get your numbers.

Learn how to drive it, your driving habits are one of the biggest influences on economy.
Check your compression dry and wet post the results. Then check your timing and make sure it's at least at factory specs. Then advance it a few degrees, check for pinging under load.

I have a 94 XFI and ran a tank at 10 degrees advanced and it appeared to drop MPG. I'm currently trying 6 degrees advanced with better results...I hope. Change out your tranny fluid to syncrhomesh if you can find and make sure the engine oil and filter are fresh. While your under the hood pull out the intake filter snorkel and if you want the rest of the bits in the fender well from it. Make sure the air filter is not plugged while doing this. This should all help your economy. If your motor is strong and tuned up lug that baby in town. I spend more time in 4th and 5th in 25-30 mph traffic then any other gear.

Enjoy it!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:56 am 
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I am shifting to 5th at 30-35mph and am driving eeeaaasssy on her. With the fill ups I filled to the flapper in the fill neck both times so I know it is the same. And I had already set timing a 7 degs. I will try the pulling snorkel part ( how does this help?) I am going outside to take pics in about 5 minutes. Thanks for the posts everyone. And I am very pleased with 35.8mpg I was driving a 83 F150 4x4 that got 6-9mpg so this is Awesome. Thanks, Bob

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:18 am 
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Hi there..........Congrats on your find.

I dropped a new XFi cam in my regular Ebay find Geo Metro. Instant economy. I also installed the final drive gear from a 4 cyl. It's LOWER than the XFi. I left the right side mirror on and I'm quite happy with the three rings on the pistons also. For comfort I did install GT seats.

These days I get around 62 miles to the Imperial Gallon, that's 4.4 liters for one hundred kill-o-meters. Mostly highway.
I changed the wheels from 12 inches to 13 inches but kept the diameter to spec.
Tires are pumped up to 44 and I have the wonderful, clean looking Bonneville Salt Flats Full Disc wheel covers. I secured them using stainless steel 10-32 3/4 inch long Philips pan head screws. You have to drill and tap the rims right at the edge. No big deal, I deflated the tires and placed two wooden wedges on either side of the location of these holes. I lost one cap, I won't lose another.
For those who may believe that this doesn't help gas mileage I can assure you that it does. To the tune of 22 km more per tankfull ! I fill with super and get 120 MORE kill-o-meters per tank. This equates to 40-45 km for FREE when you calculate added cost of gas.

For the many, and most were quite civil and polite asking me, I got my hubcaps (those wonderful Bonneville Salt Flats racing wheel covers....) at Go-Kat-Go. They are 13 inches and it looks like they have the best prices.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:24 am 
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Pics I promised
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And Yeah I think I stole it Old people owned it sold it to kid he drove 1k miles and sold to me. So third owner and going by miles the kid put on it I consider my self second!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:30 am 
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Katmandu wrote:
bbjsw10 wrote:
Hello everyone this is my first time postin. :wink: I just bought an Xfi for $440 about a week ago :D
You STOLE it for that price! :shock: Good find! 8)

XFi's are bring BIG $$$ on EBay these day! Nice one's bringing $4-5000+ !

I was on this guy the second I saw it sitting along the street it was not even for sale!! I stop gave my phone number stopped by twice and surprise surprise a message on machine when I got home one day. Said he wanted me to call him ASAP. Turns out he needed money bad and wanted her gone. AND NO I am not taking offers. :twisted:

Manutea I likey the wheel covers too bad I can't find 12". Tires are hard enough to track down. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?d ... 135&Achse=
About the only ones I found so far. 112 mph rating because my metro is super fast. 8)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:42 am 
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Neat purchase!
Change spark plugs, cap and wires.
Fill tranny with synthetic fluid, change gas filter, get a K an N air filter, worth it.

One thing YOU MUST DO:

Change those headlights for the more aerodynamic ones. They are plastic but easy to keep clear with Brasso silver polish from time to time. You will need the whole assembly, not just the lights. It's then plug and play.

12 inch covers are available from Moon....you don't want to know the price....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:45 am 
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Manutea wrote:
Neat purchase!
Change spark plugs, cap and wires.
Fill tranny with synthetic fluid, change gas filter, get a K an N air filter, worth it.

One thing YOU MUST DO:

Change those headlights for the more aerodynamic ones. They are plastic but easy to keep clear with Brasso silver polish from time to time. You will need the whole assembly, not just the lights. It's then plug and play.

12 inch covers are available from Moon....you don't want to know the price....


I just looked at price $69 per cover, WOW. And what years have the composite lights and they bolt right in?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:58 am 
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One last thing, after you are satisfied with the gas numbers that you are getting, don't fill up more than half. Extra fuel costs to lug around. Unless you have to travel on one of these frightful highways such as Crocodile Alley in Florida that sports signs like: NO services for the next 120 miles.....

Enjoy your ride Ma Man......get that hood fixed of course, dents and dings and dead flies will cost you because of added turbulence.

Yes....keep it clean....it does help. Remember: Less IS more.

The headlight from 89 to 94 will fit perfectly and the corner light will slip right in. This corner light has two screws: one on top when you raise the hood, and one at the corner bottom through the plastic. The unit slips from the front. There is a "secret" hook that easily breaks if you don't pull from the front. NOT FROM THE SIDE.
Don't forget you also need the "racks" for them.

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Ok on the headlights are you talking about the Lsi ones because that is the only model I am finding in those years that have the aero lights. I know a guy in town with about 6 metros and will find out if he has any around.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:26 pm 
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Manutea wrote:

Enjoy your ride Ma Man......get that hood fixed of course, dents and dings and dead flies will cost you because of added turbulence.


Hows this for now took about 5 minutes with a small firelog. =) I know not the best tool but got it close. And plus my tools are at work not that I know much about bodywork, I work at a Rhino Linings dealer.
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This is more economical....
I tried to download this picture several times...It finally happened.


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Good job on finding that car! I also live in the Buckeye State. Welcome to TeamSwift!

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Manutea wrote:
This is more economical....

The headlights are from Lsi correct?

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Good job on finding that car! I also live in the Buckeye State. Welcome to TeamSwift!

Nice meeting you Johnny, nice looking metro you got. I am gonna tint my windows soon. That is one of the many things I do at work.

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Tinting the windows really helps keep the cab cool especially with no Air Conditioning. Not only that, it just looks cool 8)

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Those aerodynamic headlights are quite common up here.They are found on the Chevrolet Sprint and Firefly vert, your LSi.
The recessed ones "à la Camaro" are slightly scarcer.

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Manutea wrote:
Those aerodynamic headlights are quite common up here.They are found on the Chevrolet Sprint and Firefly vert, your LSi.
The recessed ones "à la Camaro" are slightly scarcer.
What year are the aero headlights from ? :?:


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I talked to a guy I know today that owns a Plastic company here in town. He has some thin lexan that he said if I brought in a template made out of posterboard he could make me some covers for mine. Can't beat that lexan is tough as nails and shouldn't have to worry about the polishing issues of the Lsi ones.
And on another note he has some sweet scrap plastic and lexan I may get for the underbody/ grill block I wanna make up, and the pass. mirror delete plate. Can't wait he said he would do the covers for like $10, not too bad for lexan I would think.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:29 am 
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Can't wait he said he would do the covers for like $10, not too bad for lexan I would think.
I'll buy a set of those as well for my 94.

I can PayPal you right now. Let me know.

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BTW, I'm right down the road from you in Troy. 8)


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bbjsw10 wrote:
I just looked at price $69 per cover, WOW. And what years have the composite lights and they bolt right in?
Only $99 set of (4) from ---->

http://www.hubcapmike.com/rdc01-12.html

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http://www.hubcaps.org/geo.html


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Katmandu wrote:
bbjsw10 wrote:
I just looked at price $69 per cover, WOW. And what years have the composite lights and they bolt right in?
Only $99 set of (4) from ---->

http://www.hubcapmike.com/rdc01-12.html

AND

http://www.hubcaps.org/geo.html

Yeah I just posted that top link a couple days ago, and you are the only response in that post.
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