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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:03 pm 
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Well i thought i would show the rest of the Swift GTi community that such a car has been saved from the scrap heap. If fallen into the wrong hands, it would of done so.

After owning a 1993/4 (i cant remember lol) two years ago, it unfortuantly had to go, due to rust probs etc, and bein my only car, couldnt afford to have work done on it. It was chipped, and tributes a plenty go to these engines, it took some serious thrash. Would often valve float, but i loved it around 4000-4500 rpm when she just pulled that little bit harder, and the exhaust note went even more deeper.

So i got a 1991 MR2 t-bar to replace it. Good fun (bear in mind iv just turned 21) but i respect this one more. However i never stopped bangin on about my L912 OSG (which coincidently is breakin on ebay now) so for £280 i bought a 1991 white GTi with a genuine 87,000 on the clock.

Yup its got its probs, both sills, little holes here and there, bit more rust, one truly clean rear arch!!! i dont understand that, windscreen, windscreen seals at top etc. All trivial stuff, she runs sweet, no knocking, smoking, tappeting blah blah, so i have all these mega plans now i can afford to and the time and space to do so.

So plans,

-Stripped out. Leaving the dash board, steerin wheel, gear lever, handbrake lever in.
-One special big dog bucket seat for driver, a lesser big dog seat for passenger.
-4 or 5 point harness.
-Roll cage.
-Passenger foot rest (alloy)
-Omex launch control (got one in MR2, it works a treat in the wet)

-Sandros chip.
-Suprf1y 210/340 cams to go with.
-Adjustable cam gears.
-Removal of drivers side light for cold air to filter.
-Apexi air filter with custom intake piping (to manifold)
-New rad.
-Strut brace in front and rear.
-Relocation of battery to rear.
-Port and polish head (???)
-Custom 4-1 exhaust manifold.
-2" straight thru exhaust.

-Honda type R championship white paint job.
-Black bonnet.
-DC2 alloys ( was just watchin some on ebay, but couldnt afford them)
-Totally standard body kit (NEED ARCH FLARES AND SPECIAL REAR BUMPER!!!)
-Keeping the original rear stickers, and side ones.

-Camber kit.
-Stiffer bushes.
-Bigger anti roll bars
-40mm decked (hopefully)
-Honda CRX caliper conversion

It sounds alot and expensive, but i have all the time in the world, and alot is about who you know, not what you know. It will take a big something for me to sell this once done, it stupidly means that much to me lol.

Ok here are some pics for you curious cats out there.

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Before work, i hated the blended in look with the sideskirts, i want it to look very original on the out.

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Had to take off the bumper to tow it back

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Carpet already up, look, I'm retarded to show me all the rust holes lol

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Stripped out (almost) after a hour or two with a spanner

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Sorry its upside down, but check out that filler!!

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Flapping discs are great, makes mince meat of filler and fibreglass

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Nice chunk of rust removed on the passengers inner wing as you can see (if you tilt your head, sorry)

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Surface rust in the bottom passengers arch near front and back.

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Preppin arch with rust preventative primer then....

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Proper primer on the whole wing.

Now i have been grinding the sills off/to a weldable standard, they are tattered, but nothing that cant be sorted. And im tryin to take every possible rust prevention treatment goin lol, all the inside rear arch is very smooth, rust free, as is inside on that rear quarter panel too. Not like the drivers side rear quarter, which is yet to be attacked like this side.

Sorry if its a long post but, i just wanted to share my enthusiam with other swiffers, if any one has any tips, please share, and likewise with comments.

Thank you,

Ill keep you posted.

Tyler


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wow good work man. liking the big plans and keep us updated as the prject goes along!

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Update time.

Well this morning, i spent look, I'm retarded about 2-3hrs workin on my GTi. I think i may go get a tiny grinder surgically attached instead of my right hand. If it was not for the gauntlets i was wearing, i would only have about two fingers and a thumb left, on one hand, then maybe just a thumb on my other. BUT it was all worth it my chums. A little advice, if you need to cut some floorpan or sill off, use a cutting disc. You truly would be surprised to see just how much quicker it is than using a grinding disc :roll:

Sooo on to the pictures, i have now progressed really well on rippin out the rusted underneath areas, sills, and floorpan. However, every time i just see whats behind another piece of metal, rust :twisted: .

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The N/S sill area pretty much in the middle.

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Same area again. Tilt your head please, if you look close you can see the glove box hehe.

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This is the messy nasty part. Its under and just near the front N/S arch, its a bit*h to try and grind that out. Then you find another hole.

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This is taken directly beneath said area. At the top is where the skirt on the left side would go back, and the arch would just be at the bottom of pic. Looks nasty dont it?

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Thats looking at the bottom of the arch towards the area.

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I didnt even mean to find that hole on the right :(

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Side on view near the front again

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Another side on view of the middle i think.

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The creamy coloured area is the garage floor. THATS HOW MUCH I NEEDED TO CUT OUT!!

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Upward shot of an area near the rear wheel. Its a little awkward too.

Now it may seem like there is a huge expanse of rust there, but altho in some places it is quite biblical, i have cut out probable areas of re-rusting see, just so hopefully it wont come back. HAHA right.

Hopefully my two days off next week, thurs and fri, will maybe see that side of the car sorted grinding wise. But i still got pleeennnnty to do yet. I think its turning out more to be a restoration project than, get-it-back-on-the-track-going-fast-soon project. Nay mind, im loving the challenge.

O and yes, i am takin time off work, to work, on my car. That my people is backward logic.

O and again, saw another GTi last week at a garage in Retford (near where i live) and the one he had previous had about 50hrs worth of plating and welding done on all the areas iv to look forward too. Until he wrapped around a tree.

Night Night till the next time.

Cheers

Tyler


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do your self a favor and pull the engine and build yourself a turning rack for the car, its so much less painful when you can weld the buttom of your car standing up. :D

i just finished do the same thing with my car. its alot of work but should be well worth it in the end


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thats good idea theres nothing worse than mig splater down the arm of ur overalls when laying down under a car

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LOL well the thing is, its either gonna get towed to a garage nearby and get welded, or im gonna try the art process it self. The main aim of this project you see, is for me to do as much as poss, so i can stand back and go "i did that :P ". The satisfaction value.

Also, seen as iv almost cut my fingers off on Sunday, got sparks underneath a full face visor hitting sometimes my eyes almost, hot bits of metal lodged in my ears, trying to burn my trousers with sparks and other almosts, a bit of welding spatter on my overall, i dnt think would bother me :ez_lol:

But thanks for adivce anywho. Plus i think i have the worlds smallest garage to work in. My old size11 shoe boxes would be bigger. All the more fun.

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sparks arnt to bad. mig splatter sucks. just wait till it burns trough your pants and lights your boxers on fire.


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tyler if you are gona diy than get lots of practice coz the main key wiv mig is setting up the welder for the gauge of metal, find a good power/feed rate and use argon not co2 its a bit more expencive but you will have better results then go to a metal shop near you and ask if you can have a rumage through the scrap bin i doubt they`l mind as scrap steel isnt worth much and then get practicing
i`v been a sheet metal worker for 8 years now and i lernt how to mig quite well in a couple of days when i first started its that easy
and dont forget it`l save you a sh#t load of cash
and dont wear trainers coz iv had a large hole in my big toenail from mig splater and yes it fckin killed

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:lol:

I could imagine it did!!

Atm it doesnt seeem like im gettin anywhere quick with it all, but suppose patience is the key, and im no rush. I just have to keep thinking of the end result.

Getting hold of the metal wont be a problem, i work in industrial X-raying, visiting engineering firms X-raying their welding, and i always spy steel offcuts. In fact i have a tidy collection of weighty stainless building up for christmas ££££.

We'll keep that hush tho.

Tyler


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Wow, you've got some pretty big rust holes in your car. Judging from the rust stains on your floor pan, it looks like you've had water pool up in your floor pan in the past. I'd recommend removing the sound proofing. I've found surface rust hiding underneath mine.

I'd also remove the undercoating from the underside. You'd be surprised by the rust that can hide behind undercoating. I've gone looking at potential replacement cars over the last several weeks, and it seems that for some reason, all vehicles I've run across that have been undercoated, all have rust problems. I then ran across a high mileage SOHC Swift that had never been undercoated, guess what: clean underside. I would have bought that car if it wasn't for the shock tower rust and collision damage.

A project like this is an ideal way to learn how to weld. I started practicing how to weld when I had to fix my first rust hole in the floor a month or so ago. I'd recommend picking up an instructional DVD on welding (or download a few with Bittorrent). You'll learn quicker having someone that knows how to weld providing you with help (even if it's just a talking head on a TV screen).

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do your self a favor and pull the engine and build yourself a turning rack for the car, its so much less painful when you can weld the buttom of your car standing up. :D

i just finished do the same thing with my car. its alot of work but should be well worth it in the end


I'm currently repairing my swift too (even worse than this one) and i would like to make a turning rack for my car. Can somebody poste some pictures so i can get a better idea how to do ti :)

thanx, Kiri


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Kiri wrote:
I'm currently repairing my swift too (even worse than this one) and i would like to make a turning rack for my car. Can somebody poste some pictures so i can get a better idea how to do ti :)

thanx, Kiri


I found this with some quick Googling:
http://www.autoatlanta.com/tech/rotisserie_build.html

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Thanx a lot...i also tried googling but i didnt find nothing useful for the term "turning rack"...
For the term "rotisserie" i found a lot more:) so thaks again :D


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Well no pics to really show you guys.

I have pulled the rad off now, and i cant beleive how heavy that fan shroud is, its bloody weighty. So im gonna look out for a lighter replacement or codge one up my self.

I'm sorta at a stumbling block atm, just doin bit bobby jobs, it doesnt seem like im progressing anywhere, just rolling backwards down a hill, slowly. I thought i would have a look at the drivers side front for my rust tackling session and its not a pretty site, slighty worse than the n/s but meh. I need to try and drop the fuse box, ecu, and any other harnesses so as i dnt accidently cut thru them with a grinder, 'cos that would just be pants, and i would cry.

Erm, been cleanin the engine bay on the left quite a bit (il get pics oth that), it was covered in a oilly waxoil shite, so that took some elbow grease, battery been removed, but daft as it sounds im struggling to remove the drop link for the ant-roll bar. Its been doused in WD-40 no end but it wont budge lol.

Bought copper tubing, flare kit, unions, and a special brake spanner for when i replace the lines that was £45. Bought stainless braided hoses for £50 inc p+p off Goodridge, they are sex. So all new brake lines there then. Im gonna run the rear brake lines and fuel lines through the bulk head, inside the car, then back out again, so the elephants cant get to them.

Also im just about to spend some mulah on a KONI full suspension kit (all four corners), external damping adjusters, inc -40mm springs for £350. Brand new, ya think that its a good deal?? lucky i found this 'cos one site i was looking at was almost £420!!!! Shocker!! (get it lol, sorry)

So yeah thats the progress so far, sorry for your time :D

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So iv finally just removed the drivers seat, fuse box and ECU. Man the last two are pigs to drop, i was seriously gonna lose my rag with the fuse box, not easy trying to un-plug all the plugs in a space as big as matchbox. However thay are out now, just need to try and move them away from grinding areas still.

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Thats looking at the pedal area on the left drivers side.

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Closer view

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And again

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You can tell from this that the rust has crept up from the sills underneath to the inside. It annoys the S**T outta me that ppl know full well that there is chuffing great holes underneath the car, Geez someone must o seen it when it was on a ramp, and they dont bother sortin it out, instead literally just letting it rot :x

Ahem

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The arch area on o/s, a little bit worse on this side. Funny thing is, they (whoever had it b4 me) tried to "sort it" with, wait for it, silican sealer!!! Knobs.

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This is what the whole front of car looked like,

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Elbow grease, wire brush, mums best kitchen towels and plenty o Muck Off brings it up a pearler.

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Dangaly wires from ECU and fuse box

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And the brain where the mighty Sandros chip shall be sitting proudly

My tea is ready.

Tyler :salute:


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be carfull where you decide to put the lines back out coz one of me mates done that with his astra gte and after 6months the edge of the holes started to crack
how bout where the handbrake cables go out?

thats a pretty good deal on the konis
wot springs are they?
coz iv tryed bout 5 different brands they are all fine but if you want better handling then see if you could get some whiteline flatout springs the rears are ALOT stiffer than the others iv tryed which is perfect for fwd but the only downside is that when the cars jacked up they are a bit loose so i have to change them for a different set for the mot
you could get some custom springs made to your own specs but they might be a bit pricy
there might be other brands that do a better job but personally these are the best, performance wise
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Hey dude, projects looking awesome one thing i advise against is a straight thru, put at least one midbox in because the resonance and noise level is just too loud! i had one for about 6 months!


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Funny that 'cos i was talking to the bloke whom i nicked a rear bumper off about his exhaust and he had a straight thru 2" with no middle box, and he said it was painfully-window vibrating loud. Also on my old one, i just had a powerflow rear "silencer" on for £150, and altho it did highlight the cackling and gargle off gas, on motorway journeys the window had to be down to releive my ears, it was loud.

However iv seen a janspeed full system, with just a neat single rolled exit on it for sub £200, and im now deciding which path to go down.

Thank for ya comments guys, much appreciated!!

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well i got my zorst from longlife i picked my carbon jap back box up off ebay for 30 quid, the piping for me exhaust was 120 quid, then i had longlife put a mid box in not so long ago for 50 quid as it was just too damn loud!


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TylerGib wrote:
...I need to try and drop the fuse box, ecu, and any other harnesses so as i dnt accidently cut thru them with a grinder, 'cos that would just be pants, and i would cry...

I'd recommend yanking out the dash. Sooner or later you're going to have to do welding on inside (especially to touch up those rot holes around the wheelwells).


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Erm, been cleanin the engine bay on the left quite a bit (il get pics oth that), it was covered in a oilly waxoil shite, so that took some elbow grease...

That wax stuff is part of the (however minimal) factory corrosion protection:
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I'm surprised it's not rotted through the floor right behind the wheelwell. My passenger side used to have a hole large enough I could fit a few fingers through.

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...The arch area on o/s, a little bit worse on this side. Funny thing is, they (whoever had it b4 me) tried to "sort it" with, wait for it, silican sealer!!! Knobs...


I ended first patching mine with tape :lol:. All I wanted at the time was to stop water from getting in until I was better prepared to deal with it.

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Hey mate, my car was involved in a crash and its messed up real bad, so im probably gona try and get most of my parts off, if your interested ive got an exhaust with one midbox a nice 4" can on the rear with a 4-1 mani all stainless steel, make me an offer if ya like, and ive got a nice induction kit and a chip aswell!


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im intrested in parts specialy mani

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must english swifts are eatin away because of rust look at mine, nice on the outside bad in the inside its an english import in ireland. Image
Image thats by the front passenger side wishbone.

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