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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:36 am 
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Has anyone been luck enough to not have engine damage after a broken belt? I turned the crank and cam gears by hands and everything seems fine. Guess time will tell.......after my replacement belt gets here.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:21 pm 
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Oh shit, yeah, breaking timing belts is bad news. Could be a total fluke that you snapped it at TDC though! Only problem will be realigning the pistons so that they are at the correct locations when the top is at TDC.

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had that hapen to me a month ago when i got it, drove from florida to cali in a weekend belt snapped at the cali border. i was lucky enough to have no damage. dont freak out right away when you start the motor and its tapping, your lifters might of drained and you might have to let it sit and sputter for a minute or two. if your having any questions during re install feel free to pm me. good luck

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maybe im wrong but i thought the g13b was a no contact engine. a friend of mine broke a t belt and had no damage either.

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Hi,

I snapped one in Jan this year.
I didn't trust my luck so I took head off and found out no bent valves and fitted new gasketset and belt.
Start first time and yes tappet was nosiy for a bit.
It goes well to red line when I need it!

You must be another lucky one like myself!

Good luck fixing it.
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Thanks guys. I'l let you know the results as soon as the replacement belt arrives and is fitted. Guess I'll work on the head swap for one of my 1.0 metros in the mean time.

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I almost broke a timingbelt 7 years ago in my gti. It didn't fully snapped, but everything was thrown out of timing. Car lost a lot of power. I drove it like that till I got home.
When it was changed it was very dirty (oil).

That's my worst fear everytime I rev the engine.

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agreed breaking a belt always leaves you with a sense of worry for a while at high revs....

odd seeing how the g13b is an interference engine, the majority of people that post about their broken belt have no damage, mabye the engine is only like 15% interference (that makes sense in my head dont give me crap!) or what ever you know what im getting at.

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then let me be the first when my belt came off it bent the valves in cyl #1


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i said majority not all, but sorry to hear of your misfortune.

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Keep ur fingers crossed for me.....belt should be here soon.

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I think when it happens makes a big difference. Idling in a driveway is probably a lot better than 80 mph.

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mine snapped at 80, even cranked it over after i came to a rolling stop just to make sure it was the belt. no damage at all.

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I was only doing about 40-45 when it happened....we'll see.........

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bad4u wrote:
mine snapped at 80, even cranked it over after i came to a rolling stop just to make sure it was the belt. no damage at all.

I guess yours cams stopped in good spots. :D

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I snapped my belt, got a replacement belt and put it all back together (after the first attempt being accidentally mis-timed due to the belt moving one tooth :oops: )

Once timed properly, fired up first pop! Although that said, a few months later at the first rebuild, discovered two slightly bent valves (only noticed when they were being spun on the valve facer).

So that about sums up my experience with a broken timing belt!

Chances are pretty good that it will continue to work at normal cruising. High-end driving however could be a different story. I would be careful if I was you.

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bmg_customz, just curious how long does it take since latest replacement until broken?

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pumashoes wrote:
bmg_customz, just curious how long does it take since latest replacement until broken?


This is my first one on this car. It has over 100,000 miles on it though and I think it was the original :shock: . They should be good for 60,000 miles though.

Bad news is I think it has a bent valve....I got it together but havent hit it with a timing light yet.....it is a lil rough. I'll let ya know this weekend.

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it will be rought until the lifter are full of oil, if the tapping has gone away and its still rough,.... well... just hope you need to adjust the timing...

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Meh.......it would be a good chance to do some head work :lol:

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