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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:27 pm 
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Hi guys,

So I'm going to (try) install a ECU master on my Swift :).
I've been reading a lot, and i'm going on sequential ignition instead wasted spark. But for this to work well, i'll need to install a HALL SENSOR on the camshaft, and I was wondering if it's not possible to use the CAS (camshaft angle sensor) sensor that we have on the distributor, instead trying to install a new hall sensor. For this to work I just need one trigger on the camshaft, and the spinning wheel inside the distributor need to be machined, for just leaving on trigger point.
Because the main difference of the HALL SENSOR it's the 12V wire, for triggering with magnet. and this CAS sensor it's like the VR sensor, the magnet it's inside the sensor.

Hope everyone understand my English also my idea.

I know a guy that is tuner at M-Sport, he told me that wasn't a good idea, but it seems to me that he doesn't like to explain... Every time I ask something i just get "YES" "NO"...

The best place to help each other it's here )

Thx in advance


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:33 am 
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instead of sacrificing a gt distributor why not use an 8 valve g13ba distributor set up with your hall effect device?

when i set up my turbo3 for sequential injection and direct ignition i embedded a small rare eatrh magnet into a cam gear so that the south end of the magnet triggered a hall effect device mounted into the flange of the valve cover.
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i used a gear tooth type hall effect device to read a 36-1 trigger wheel mounted to a 4" accessory pulley on the crank.
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the timing sensor setup for sequential operation will use a small count from the crank and a large count or reset from the cam to identify engine phase.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:22 pm 
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Hi mate,

first of all, thx for reply so quickly.

I saw your project few weeks ago, and it was where I got the idea to put the flying magnet on the camgear :)

You used something like this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Detective-Eff ... 486a0a1f6a


Well the reason why I was sacrificing a distributor, it's because i have a spare one, and once i'm going to use COP, i won't need distributor but i'll keep the one i have on the car right now.

Ragtop, but this is possible? Use the CAS as hall sensor? Once it works like the VR sensor, it's possible to use bot CAS and VR together?


thx


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:13 pm 
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Well,


already working. but on semi-sequencial now. I'll put full sequencial after doing some more work.

like finding the tachometer wire....

here's a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa8JdpXfY3w


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:01 am 
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t3 ragtop wrote:
instead of sacrificing a gt distributor why not use an 8 valve g13ba distributor set up with your hall effect device?

when i set up my turbo3 for sequential injection and direct ignition i embedded a small rare eatrh magnet into a cam gear so that the south end of the magnet triggered a hall effect device mounted into the flange of the valve cover.
Image
Image

i used a gear tooth type hall effect device to read a 36-1 trigger wheel mounted to a 4" accessory pulley on the crank.
Image

the timing sensor setup for sequential operation will use a small count from the crank and a large count or reset from the cam to identify engine phase.



Hello T3,

man can you help me by saying where the hell is the wire that goes to the tacho?? :(
can't find it. I think/know that's a Y/BR wire?!
I though that was the Brown Wire that is in the ignition control (under the ignition coil) or on the plug near the battery and fuses, but didn't work when I linked with the tacho out put from the ecumaster...
Is this the tacho wire?

btw, the VSS located on the dash, is a hall sensor, or VR?

regards


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