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 Post subject: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:16 pm 
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Hi!

I'm planning to go with a turbo setup since i have a spare motor that i'm planning to put in my car.
This will be a dialy car so i want around 150hp, more or less

I really want the car to still be reliable, so what u guys recommend me?

Should i go with vitara pistons? will i need to rebore the block?

Are these better alternatives?

-http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Civic-Turbo-Pistons-D16Z6-D16Y8-Civic-SOHC-75mm-YCP-Vitara-with-Rings-/201419983201?hash=item2ee5910961%3Ag%3AhaMAAOSwT6pV54rE&vxp=mtr

-http://www.ebay.com/itm/75MM-VITARA-LOW-COMPRESSION-PISTONS-PISTON-RINGS-HONDA-CIVIC-CRX-TURBO-/301611419842?fits=Make%3AHonda&hash=item46397108c2:g:yP4AAOSwgNRV8gm9&vxp=mtr


Mls headgasket, mk2 engine with mk3 cams (in order not to brake the mk2 cams :?: ) what else will i need block wise?


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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:40 pm 
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Use 1.3 16V SOHC pistons

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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:24 am 
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suprf1y wrote:
Use 1.3 16V SOHC pistons


Arent they the vitara pistons?


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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:44 am 
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Vitara is 1.6. Not the best choice

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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:03 am 
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mk2 engine with mk3 cams (in order not to brake the mk2 cams :?: )


what's the difference?


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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:13 pm 
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lukak wrote:
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mk2 engine with mk3 cams (in order not to brake the mk2 cams :?: )


what's the difference?


The cams are different right? Heard some people here in my country that broke the mk2 cams


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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:38 pm 
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sesfez wrote:
lukak wrote:
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mk2 engine with mk3 cams (in order not to brake the mk2 cams :?: )


what's the difference?


The cams are different right? Heard some people here in my country that broke the mk2 cams


Lift and duration are the same.
Mk2 cams are hollow vs the solid mk3 cams.

G13BB pistons are the ones suprf1y are referrring to. These pistons will reach deck height (top of block). They will also drop compression just a bit vs the vitara pistons.

The vitara pistons won't reach deck height. They'll be around 1 mm from reaching the top. The vitara pistons comes with different kind of dish depth. But all in all the vitara pistons will drop compression a lot (low 7:1)! There is a good thread called "tricky vitara pistons" by Caaarlo. Look it up.

Unless you're planning on getting the block shaved and run a lot of boost, I'd say use the G13BB pistons, also known as jimny pistons.

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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:21 am 
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funny, all mk2/3 cams i saw was hollow.. since there are more mk3 in EU than mk2, and i never saw solid cams i think all cams for eu market was hollow.. but that's just my thinking..
hollow ones sometimes broke, yes, but only time they broke on our cars was when head was ported too much (specially exhaust side) and head bent/twist a little (overheat help there too) that head broke 3 cams in short time.. after that we build new engine, all the time over 8k rpm and no problems with cams (or anything else) at all..

my mk2 have 235k km on clock and only thing i did was replace head gasket and valve teflons at 195k km ..


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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:01 pm 
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I'm not planning for a lot of boost, its a shame because its pretty hard to find a normal swift 1.3 while vitaras 1.6 there are a few

My mk3 came with solid cams, the other motor that came from a mk2 has hollow cams. Injectors are different too, and i dont know if i can use mk3 injectors with mk2 ecu :huh:


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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:59 pm 
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injectors look a little different, but they are all same size.. you can use mk2 or mk3 ecu, but mk3 is a little better i think..

and it's not just any "normal" swift, it must be g13bb which is SOHC 16v engine which produce around 90hp i think..


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 Post subject: Re: Pistons for turbo
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:47 pm 
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Those pistons can be bought inexpensively on ebay

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