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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:12 pm 
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Hi fellows I planning to change my G10 engine and replace it with a G13 Baleno engine can the G10 gear box work back with the G13 and bolt up perfectly? I need some advice from someone.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:24 pm 
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It should do, should be all the normal stuff when changing from 3 cyl to 4 cyl, plenty of info here on that conversion, all g10's and G13's have the same bell housing pattern.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:31 pm 
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Thank you man this is great help. One more thing will the wiring for the G13 be difficult since it will now be a fuel injection also do I have to pull done the dash board for the wiring? NB: The G10 is Carbs.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:19 pm 
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Your will defintely need to pull the dashboard to wire it, I would try to get all the wiring loom from the baleno otherwise it will be one big headache, you'll also need the g13b fuel pump and fuel lines Good luck!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:08 pm 
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Thanks for the info but when you say pulling down the dashboard does this means the entire dash or just the compartment under the steering wheel? Another thing I would like some help on is my suzuki swift 3 cyclinder I would like to know at what RPM should it idle at I know on the bonnet the manufacture say 800-850rpm but it still tends to idle a little rough. Some person say it should idle at 1000rpm for more smoother idle can you help me with this issue. Thank you

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:51 pm 
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Hi fellows I planning to change my G10 engine and replace it with a G13 Baleno engine can the G10 gear box work back with the G13 and bolt up perfectly? I need some advice from someone.


The tranny will bolt up but you will need to change the mount and axels. The 1.3 is longer and this moves the tranny over more to the drivers side. The gearing in the 1.0 tranny is lower than a 1.3 so the mileage will be less than a normal 1.3. Good luck. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:38 am 
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Thanks for the info. Can you help me with the idle speed for the 1.0L carbs what it should be at some person say 800-850rpm some say 900-1000rpm for a smoother idle? Can you tell me which one is recommended?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:03 pm 
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Well, my manual said that for an automatic idle should be 850-900 rpm's and a manual should be 900-950rpm's.

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Well, my manual said that for an automatic idle should be 850-900 rpm's and a manual should be 900-950rpm's.


I've never seen the manual for the G10 Suzukis, but with most cars (including my 1.3 GLX) it's the reverse - the auto tranny models are usually set to idle 50 rpm or so higher than a manual transmission model, to compensate for the drag of the torque converter.

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this will be an interesting project
post some pics man =)

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Why? This is very little different to any of the four cylinder to 3 cylinder swaps already documented.

The 1.3 Baleno uses a G13BB - a 16v SOHC MPI variant of the G13 - the block and it's mounting is exactly the same as any of the other G13B engines - there will probably some challenges in the wiring harnesses and possibly the intake & exhaust connections - but other than that, it's been done before.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:45 am 
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hi i also recently..infact yesterday swapped a g13bb into my suzuki zen/alto/cervo mode replacing its g10b engine. and m using the following things from g10b engine- gearbox,clutch,flywheel,pressure plate, complete g10b exhaust, g10b ecu. the problem i am facing is- i am not geting enough power n pickup...infact, the smaller g10b used to whilspin in 1st n 2nd gear n this engine just struggles to do dat. what might be the problem?? help

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:09 am 
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You're using the g10b ECU on a g13bb :huh:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:37 am 
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yes m using a g10b(4 cylinder, 16v, shoc, euro 2 engine) ecu to run the g13bb(4 cylinder, 16v, shoc, euro 2)..actually me n every1 around was thinking it wont work but it did!! :D ..saved me a lot of money! :D :D ...its some sort of self learning kind of ecu

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:24 pm 
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power delivary is not good enough...wat can be the reasons???

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:roll: The g10b will supply enough fuel at low rpm only, does the g10b run a knock sensor on the back of the block?
I think you need a 1.3 ecu.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:06 pm 
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ok so the g10b ecu is the culprit here?? knock sensor?? wat does dat do? and wer to locate it?...the car knocks at lower rpm/high gear, and the accelaration is very jerky

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:12 pm 
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is the use of g10b exhaust system(it fits perfectly...ill have to get a ffe later) and older fuel pump and the catcon robbing power?? (sorry my english is so "indian english type")

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:42 pm 
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The knock sensor retards the ignition timing to prevent detonation, it's screwed into the back of the block below the intake manifold.

I would check the size of the ports on your exhaust manifold, I wouldn't be surprised if the g10 ports are smaller than the g13bb's since the g10b has a 2mm smaller bore and only 61mm stroke compared to the 75.5mm on the g13bb, you may well need to use the 1.3 exhaust manifold.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:42 am 
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m getting a new ffe exhaust, as of ecu..i think a remapping wil be good enough i guess. wat mods u did in ur g13??

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