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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:07 pm 
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Hi,

I am searching for information on the 1993 axle seals for the automatic.

I have replaced them on a manual tranny so I know a manual takes a different seal on each side. However, it is not clear if the automatic uses the same seal on each side or if they are different?

I did a search and found two posts quoted below that mentions one part number for the automatic. Does anyone know if the 93 automatic has the same seal on each side?

I need to have my hands on the correct parts before I work on the car as my idiot neighbor calls code enforcement if my car is not running for more than the weekend. It's to the point he calls if he sees me working on it. Even by the end of the day if its on all 4 wheels and you can't tell by looking at the car, code enforcement makes me start and go forward and reverse. Nice, huh?

Anyways, just trying to confirm exact part number for 93 automatic. And if the seals are the same for the 93 automatic or if they are different.

The first post mentions a 91, the second post mentions buying 2 of the same seals but for an older model so it wasn't clear if that would apply to the 93? 2 posts listed below. Thanks a bunch!


viewtopic.php?f=9&t=40224&p=303356&hilit=axle+seal+part+%23#p303356

[quote="Phil N Ed"]These parts are listed:

BCA/NATIONAL Part # 223535 More Info {Oil Seal / Nitrile / Shaft Size=1.378" Housing Bore=2.047" Outer Diameter=2.052" Width=0.315"}
Right; Suzuki MV2 5 Spd. Manual Transaxle $5.80

BCA/NATIONAL Part # 223552 More Info {Oil Seal / Nitrile / Shaft Size=1.378" Housing Bore=2.441" Outer Diameter=2.452" Width=0.374"}
Left; Suzuki MV2 5 Spd. Manual Transaxle $6.41


The automatic trans shows this:
BCA/NATIONAL Part # 223540 More Info {Oil Seal / Acrylates / Shaft Size=1.378" Housing Bore=2.165" Outer Diameter=2.183" Width=0.315"}
Aisin A210 3 Spd. Automatic Transaxle $5.76


I also found this post which lists completely different numbers for an automatic but doesn't mention if the automatic uses 2 of the same seals?
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37498&p=282252&hilit=axle+seal+part+%23#p282252

just bought 2 output shaft seals today from Autozone for an older Aisin 3 speed with part number 710110, and that's a nice seal with a dust boot. If you search around, you can find nice seals with added whistles and bells for the same price.

You double check; so far, the part numbers don't match and even though they are different manufacturers, the part numbers shouldn't be that far off.

Go with a double lip seal, if possible.
The input shaft seal I bought is a double lip, and it's number is 223830. Have the parts man at Autozone pull one off the shelf and show it to you so you can see the difference, or to refresh you.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:49 pm 
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I'll look through our records to see what seals we used on our '93 automatic.
On your post above, it is a bit misleading.
You've quoted one of my old posts, but most of that information is for a stick shift.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:25 am 
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Our '85 automatic used these seals:
199140
710110
226863
223830
and one probably was the input shaft seal.

Compare those to the numbers you have for the '93 automatic. So far, I haven't located any records of which seals we used on ours.

BTW, the earlier MK1 5 speed uses the same seal left and right for the output shafts, so you've probably worked on the later 5 speeds without the roll pins in the shift shaft, right?

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:26 pm 
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Hi Phil N Ed

Thank you for checking for me.

I only have worked on the 92-94 manual 5-speed models. The axles just snapped in. For the manual, the seals were national 223535 and 223552. I do not know which side they were for though; just the part numbers and that they were different.

I went ahead and on faith ordered 2 seals of the same part #223540 for the 93 automatic.

I will post here what the correct number is and if they are in fact the same on both sides.

But it will probably be a month or so out before I actually get around to attempting the work...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:54 pm 
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Gosh, put doing this off for a lot longer than planned. Finally got around to it. I can confirm the 1993 automatic does in fact use the same axle seal for drivers/passenger.
I ended up with Beck-Arnley 052-3526

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:58 pm 
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Thanks for the update.
Beck Arnley 052-3526 fits all automatics from '85-'93 and is the same as the 710110, IIRC.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:16 pm 
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35 mm X 55 mm X 8mm (35x55x8) double lip oil seal
$10 each at local auto parts store (I bought the last 2 they had, they told me they were discontinued)
I went to a bearing shop, bought 4 of them for $9 dollars. :huh: was told it was a common seal :huh:
they can be found on ebay, $6 dollars each.

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