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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:52 pm 
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In the process of completing a crate motor I purchased new and on the end of the camshaft where the sensor and housing would bolt on....the lobe is different than the cam lobe on another parts motor I have. The old motor I'm not using, has a lobe with two raised tabs on it that are spaced apart from each other. The new motor has a cam with only one WIDER raised tab.
Is there a difference in the two? Does anyone know what I'm looking at?
Both motors are 1999 style. I'll put some pictures up later tonight. I'm sure it would work fine....but this motors on an aircraft...and the peace of mind knowing the difference would be nice!! thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:47 pm 
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Anyone with information?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:53 pm 
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one of the cams in your pic appears to be from a 16v baleno 1.6 engine. i don't know what the other cam is.

aircraft use modifications that sometimes are just out of the normal automotive range.

i think that's pretty much the reason you haven't had an answer up until now. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:06 am 
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Thanks for the reply. The cam by itself is from a swift 1.3. The cam in the head is on a swift 1.3. Both engines are the 1999-2001 style. Engine is a Chinese G13B long block. I just don't really know what the function of the cam sensor would be....and why it would be different. I'm sure it doesn't matter...just curious


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:42 pm 
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our resident cam guru sent me pics of various cams labeled with their originating g family engines. generally, the later obd2 control fitted cars used the cam angle sensor to facilitate sequentially fired injection on their multi-port fuel injection system.

the cam angle sensor's basic function is to indicate when the cam driving the valve train is close to it's zero degree location so that the injectors fire into the intake stroke. without being told what phase the engine is in, the electronics could sync up 180 degrees out of phase and fire the injectors into open exhaust valves on the engine's exhaust stroke.

what i find more interesting on the g13bb engine is the crank trigger wheel. it has more bumps than carter has liver pills. porsche uses 60 tooth wheels but the g13bb has some interesting arrangement of various triggers that provide the signal train to the ecu for injection and ignition.

what engine management controls are you using?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:01 pm 
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Im in the process of installing all of the items on the stripped short block. I was going to use a modified stock wiring harness with a stock ecm fro 1999-2001. Any other options? Thanks


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:54 pm 
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there are quite a few options for engine management but probably nothing as simple as using the obd2 factory controls.

the only thing is that you will have a number of sensor inputs to fool. the mk5 car has a bunch of things you won't be using on an aircraft mill. one of those is the fuel tank pressure sensor, others will probably be the iac, the fuel purge valve and canister, and bank 2 o2 sensor.

the absence of any of those will set a cel on the automotive ecu.

other engine management options are direct digital, megasquirt, aes, among others. any and all of those are expensive.

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