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Author:  halfprice [ Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  97 hydraulic to slider follower

I have searched this topic and can not seem to find the answer.

I would like to convert my 97 metro to use slider followers.

How/can it be done?

Author:  suprf1y [ Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

What's a slider follower?

Author:  halfprice [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

Solid, not hydraulic roller rocker.

Sorry for the misnomer

This is a 1.3

Author:  codyb76 [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

You will need to switch to a 89-94 cylinder head. Could swap to gt or regular 8 valve style. Not hard to do but you will also need to switch a lot of other parts to match the head. Intake, timing belt and cover, distributor, likely computer and some wiring work, plugs and such are different. Pretty big hassle.
Why don't you want the hydraulic lifters? They are a pretty good system and generally reliable, and the roller style is low friction on the 95-97 1.3's

Author:  halfprice [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

I've had a problem with hydraulic adjusters.

From what I know, and correct me if I am wrong.

You should be able to compress lash adjusters after they are run in the engine.

Mine are a new set and are as solid as a rock unless I depress the ball check in the back of the adjuster.

I cleaned everything well with carb & choke cleaner or mineral spirits.

I replaced the old adjusters because of valve train noise.

I'm using 5-30 oil, new filter regular oil changes etc..

Author:  codyb76 [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

The new set is giving problems, or you haven't installed them because they won't compress? Normally if all is well they won't compress signicantly after being run in. In general to check them you see which one compresses more than the others, often thats the noisy lifter.
You sure its valve train noise? Not common on this particular engine. Cracked piston skirts are common though, and initially show up as tick, then progress to a knock that is often mistaken for rod knock.

Author:  halfprice [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

New lifters are installed, but had a slight miss so I checked the new lifters.
They compress very little if any.

Stethoscope is loudest on the cam cover.

Engine has 80k on it and has up to now been trouble free.

Time for a compression check.

Thanks for the tip on cracked pistons.

Might be time to put it out to pasture, very rusty outside but very solid underneath.

Author:  suprf1y [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

You can swap out the rockers from an earlier 8V motor, either 1.3 or 1.6, but you need to swap the cam over as well, and it won't be a roller. Alternately. you could machine some inserts in place of the hyd. lifter, threaded for an adjustor setscrew

Author:  halfprice [ Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 97 hydraulic to slider follower

Thanks guys,

Been thinking making the hydraulic lifters solid w/ adjustment screw.

Know the size adjuster(diameter & thread) I'll need?

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