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 Post subject: Need help on my 1.3 SOHC
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:43 pm 
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Hello I own a 95 Pontiac Firefly and I wanted to put in a 1.3 GTI engine but I heard it would'nt be as goos since I don't have the right transmision. But I've got a deal for a Firefly Turbo 3 cyl. the guy would install it with the transmission (the same as a swift GT) for 600$ in my car. I tryed his 3 cyl. Turbo and it goes faster than My car but would it be better to try to fit the 7 psi Turbo on to my 4 cylender instead?. I heard the 3 cyl. has 70 HP the same as my SOHC 4 cylender but I found it to go faster though.I'm trying to have the more power for the lesser money I can. If you can help me I would apreciate it THank! <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: turbo
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 12:00 am 
I do not think that turbo will work on a 4 cyl.<br>Not sure but maybe someone else will know more.<br>If you decide to not use that turbo I would like to get it.I have a 3 cyl.<br>Let me know. <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:45 am 
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LOg1k, you said you have the SOHC 1.3 right? Then why wouldn't the tranny be the same as the DOHC 1.3? I have a 1.3 SOHC and a 1.3 DOHC and as far as I know the block design is the same for both. Only the internals and the head were different. I'm currently working on a swap for my Samurai to put the DOHC into it with a stand alone wiring set-up for the fuel injection. I know several people who's swaped the motors without a problem. I could be wrong though <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>The Turbo is small for either the SOHC or the DOHC motors but it would be better suited for the SOHC because the DOHC has a higher volumetric effecincy. I'm working on a twin IHI RHB3 turbo set-up for the DOHC right now but until I get the turbo's I'm planning on running a Daytona turbo (Garret)<br><br>Let me know if you need any more info and I'll be glad to help.<br><br>Adam <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: re
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 8:34 pm 
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Thanks for the reply. The tranny from a DOHC is a 4.11 ratio and mine is a 3.79. I've known a guy who changed it and said the car was a lot faster for acceleration but the top speed was reduced to about 150 km/h. The guy who's selling me the firefly Turbo (a former mecanic) told me that the Turbo wouldn't fit in my car because it's not the same computer. But I called in a performance shop in Montreal and the guy told me that it's doable with not too much effort and I must call him monday to know the price. But would it be a good idea to make the 3 cyl. Swap from my engine. I heard these engine with the turbo devlop 70 HP, the same as my 4 cyl. But when I tried it I found it to be a lot faster than mine. I really don't know what's best. So you're telling me I could just swap the head of my engine for a 16 valve with no problem? What about the computer? And I heard You need the wireing too because the sensors are not the same in the two engines. The GT is multi point Fuel injection. For your engine swap in your samurai, I have a friend who had a 2.8 litter from a camaro in a samurai witha 4 speed automatic transmission. I don't know how they manage to fit it in there but it worked fine. <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: re
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2002 5:57 pm 
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Ifyou could I would swap the whole 16V motor into your car. It has a forged crank, pistons and rods so it allot stronger than the SOHC motor. I donno if you could just swap the computer and sensors or if you would have to swap wiring harnesses at the same time. I'm having my wiring harness chopped up into a stand alone set-up so basically I could drop the motor into and vechicle I wanted <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> I used to do the pre-delivery inspections for the turbo firefly's and yea I love them but I still think the turbo on the DOHC would be too small. On the SOHC it may work for low boost<br><br>I have 2 Samurai's and the one has had a 2.8l with the Borg-Warner T4 tranny in my Sammy as well as a Chevette motor. I have a friend that put a 13B Turbo RX-7 motor into his Samurai and he just pulled it out and put a Buick 3.8L into it. I was working on a Caddy Northstar swap for mine until the shop I had doing the half cases on it threw it out <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> and now they have to replace it. Until then I'm planning on putting an al aluminum 4.9L Caddy motor into it (it weighs 6LBS more than a 2.8l but it's WIDE)<br><br>Adam <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: re
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2002 10:39 pm 
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I really don't know how a so big engine can fit in a so small car bay. I often look at Samurai engine bay and I really find them small. They look as small as the one in my firefly. I really don't know how you can fit a 4.9 engine in it... It really impresses me! And how come everyone swaps engine easely in samurais but they have trouble swaping any other kind of car? They must have some secrets I don't know.....<br> <p>Never underestimate the power of a suzuki. you could be surprised...</p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Here are the news
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 9:36 pm 
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I finally got some news from a local shop here in Montreal. The guy (who owns a firefly turbo with modified turbo) told me what you guys had already told me: the 3 cyl turbo isn't big enough for my 4 cyl. He also told me that if I could get a T25 turbo from an eagle Talon 2nd generation for about 250$ He could make it fit in my car for about 750$. This turbo would be set at 5 psi since I still have my original pistons. He estimates the power to go to about 120 H.P . He also told me that I could use a turbo from a Jetta Turbo diesel, and that it would even be better but I have to find one in a good condition wich can be rare. Anyways, while I was looking aat the locaal scrapyards I got an accident with a truck and he smashed all my left side. SO the turbo will be on hold for a while <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Never underestimate the power of a suzuki. you could be surprised...</p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Here are the news
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 11:30 pm 
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if you are looking for a T-25, look in some of the DSM BBS boards. You can usually find them for less than that for ones that are still in fairly good shape. Also look for some bigger injectors off of a DSM. They come with 390CC from an auto and 450cc's in a 1G manual. I'm gonna run some 390's in my set-up<br>If you need any help email me direct.<br>Adam <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Here are the news
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 7:22 pm 
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LOg1k, I got your email, I will get back to you ASAP.I'm super busy right now and I'll get you the info this weekend.<br>THX<br>Adam <p></p><i></i>


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