TeamSwift

Home of the Suzuki mini-compacts ! Your Home for all things Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, Holden Barina, Chevy Sprint, Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Cultus. TeamSwift is a technical performance oriented community!
It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:26 pm

Underbody braces, turbos and more!

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 181 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 9:56 pm
Posts: 1146
Location: Saint-Jérôme, Qc
TurboTurtle wrote:
I am curious on your clutch setup and for that matter the setups of similar builds.

Good luck on it!


Go with the swift GT clutch, or better. It took me a couple of days to smoke up the 3 cylinder clutch. I now have a 8 puck disc with a double-diaphragm pressure plate. it holds for now.

_________________
Suzuki Gold Master Tech
'07 Suzuki SX4 JLX AWD 2.0 | Turbine Tech turbo kit @ 7psi
'08 Suzuki SX4 Sport 2.0 , average baby carrier


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:45 am
Posts: 414
Location: florida usa
so the g13 clutch would fit a g10 block and tranny. ?

_________________
i want another metro!!!!! LOL!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2003 11:31 pm
Posts: 2457
Location: New York State
custom metro! wrote:
so the g13 clutch would fit a g10 block and tranny. ?

Only if you use the G13 flywheel too.

_________________
1994 Metro - MPH project (getting a DOHC G13B)
1994 Metro - MPG project (getting an XFi G10)
1992 Swift - Parts car (gone)
1991 Swift - Parts car (gone)
1990 Swift - Parts car
1997 Metro - Parts car (gone)
1993 Metro - Parts car
1989 Swift GTi - Parts car
1998 Metro - Parts car


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:45 am
Posts: 414
Location: florida usa
kewl,it will all bolt together. and still fit nicely. i know the stock g10 clutch won't handle the fearsome power of a turbo!

_________________
i want another metro!!!!! LOL!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 9:56 pm
Posts: 1146
Location: Saint-Jérôme, Qc
That's why factory turbos were fitted with a GT clutch and flywheel

_________________
Suzuki Gold Master Tech
'07 Suzuki SX4 JLX AWD 2.0 | Turbine Tech turbo kit @ 7psi
'08 Suzuki SX4 Sport 2.0 , average baby carrier


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:46 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Missouri, USA
The G13 clutch and the turbo G10 clutch are the same

The G13 flywheel and the turbo G10 flywheel are listed as different numbers, but have the EXACT same mounting holes, weight, starter tooth count, same dimension, and as far as I can tell the same alloy....

Also.... the G13 flywheel in stock form will be my best bet for the amount that I will be putting to the ground.

The G13/G10t clutch however.....won't even come close.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 9:56 pm
Posts: 1146
Location: Saint-Jérôme, Qc
have a pressure plate made up with 2 diaphragms instead of one. It gives about 650 lbs of clamp

_________________
Suzuki Gold Master Tech
'07 Suzuki SX4 JLX AWD 2.0 | Turbine Tech turbo kit @ 7psi
'08 Suzuki SX4 Sport 2.0 , average baby carrier


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 10:45 pm
Posts: 674
Location: Millbrook, Alabama
I probably made a small mistake then by sticking with the G10 flywheel, and a brand new clutch.

_________________
Image
92 Metro Turbo-G13b Swap - too much stuff to list
95 Metro 4/5 Sedan - Daily Driver Status
2014 BRZ Limited in WRB - The car payment


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 9:56 pm
Posts: 1146
Location: Saint-Jérôme, Qc
It depends how much boost you'll throw at it. Mine was already worn out and lasted a couple days at 5-10psi. it's when I got in the 15 range that it got messy

_________________
Suzuki Gold Master Tech
'07 Suzuki SX4 JLX AWD 2.0 | Turbine Tech turbo kit @ 7psi
'08 Suzuki SX4 Sport 2.0 , average baby carrier


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:06 pm 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8045
Location: Ontario, Canada
Quote:
The G13/G10t clutch however.....won't even come close.


The clutch is not the problem, its the pressure plate.
As far as I know, all 1.3 cl/pp/fw are the same, as is the T3's, with the possible exception of the Mk1 T3 pp being thinner. The Mk2 pp hits on the Mk1 bellhousing, if I recall.

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:46 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Missouri, USA
turbohull wrote:
have a pressure plate made up with 2 diaphragms instead of one. It gives about 650 lbs of clamp
I still doubt it capability to hold 300+ on the ground.

Sorry, but a 7inch disc...... it just doesn't seem possible.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:45 am
Posts: 414
Location: florida usa
so custom fab one? make one and sell, sell, sell!!! :twisted:

_________________
i want another metro!!!!! LOL!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:08 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 9:56 pm
Posts: 1146
Location: Saint-Jérôme, Qc
TurboTurtle wrote:
turbohull wrote:
have a pressure plate made up with 2 diaphragms instead of one. It gives about 650 lbs of clamp
I still doubt it capability to hold 300+ on the ground.

Sorry, but a 7inch disc...... it just doesn't seem possible.

Well it works fine for us quebekers :-P we're about 10 guys with the same pp. some use stock pads, some have had 4 puck ceramic pad made up. I have a 8 puck "can't-remember-the-material" pad. it's something like poly-carbon-something...

I'm the only one with a 3 cylinder, all the others have GT motors... so far we're more worried about stripping gears than clutch slipping :lol: It holds enough to destroy 3rd gears while rolling

_________________
Suzuki Gold Master Tech
'07 Suzuki SX4 JLX AWD 2.0 | Turbine Tech turbo kit @ 7psi
'08 Suzuki SX4 Sport 2.0 , average baby carrier


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:46 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Missouri, USA
turbohull wrote:
I'm the only one with a 3 cylinder, all the others have GT motors... so far we're more worried about stripping gears than clutch slipping :lol: It holds enough to destroy 3rd gears while rolling
Don't tell me that...... I have an abundance of parts for everything EXCEPT the trans.....


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:56 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:43 pm
Posts: 31
Location: USA
custom metro! wrote:
i know what i am talking about, dumbass. for your info, the JDM B18C5 from a right hand drive honda integra!!!!! the motor is extremely rare. it has been fully built from top to bottom and every nut, bolt, even the oil was all done by SPOON! yes the jdm company SPOON that only specailizes in hondas only! the sad and messed up part of it all was the spoon engine was fitted into a fully modifed mugen dc5 integra chassis, everything inside and out was mugen. but the motor was very rare yes i know i could have usdm and went cheap! but nothing is as much rewarding as have a true gem. and not to mention the B18C5 would rev up to 13,000 rpm. and i hit with every gear change, every day!


A B18C5 (also a JDM ITR Motor is technically B18C, not a C5) in itself is by no means rare, I can pick up the phone and buy one right now. Also, a DC5 is a RSX chassis that comes with a K motor...you wouldnt put a B swap into a K chassis. You put them in the DC2 chassis 94-01. Rev to 13k rpm, not hardly, youd hit it once...then pull over to pick up your valvetrain that shot out the tailpipe.

Do work Kyle!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 10:45 pm
Posts: 674
Location: Millbrook, Alabama
I put in a Walbro 255 today after finding out that i was ripped off by a guy on this site. I was told he was selling me a GTI fuel pump, instead he sold me a stock Metro pump. I was too dumb to question why the pump was the same size, so i got screwed.

So today i put the 255 in and it seems to have fixed all the cars lean problems with one stroke. I have an FMU on the car and i need to put the wideband on it to tune it better, but for now it is VERY fast for a Metro. Sadly my brand new clutch is already starting to slip on the 1-2 shift...

Pics and vids to come soon.

PS. I am having the wheels/tires installed Thursday. I went with Nitto 195-50-15s, i couldn't turn them down for $42 a tire brand new. For all the tires, putting the tires on the wheels, balancing, and mounting i spent $300. Can't complain about that one bit.

I also bought a pair of mk3 GTI taillights from xrw44. They are badass also. Pics to come in the next week of car with wheels and taillights.

Kyle

_________________
Image
92 Metro Turbo-G13b Swap - too much stuff to list
95 Metro 4/5 Sedan - Daily Driver Status
2014 BRZ Limited in WRB - The car payment


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:21 pm
Posts: 353
Location: Oss, the Netherlands
Like to see that video!

My gf has 195/50's on the rear of her GTi, and in corners they rub the fenders, 45's don't. I don't know if they'll rub on your car, just thought I should mention it :)

_________________
'95 Swift 1.0:

- 0,5mm oversized pistons
- mildly ported head, 1,7mm taken off
- ss exhaust valves
- 222/365 3tech cam
- +10 gear
- K&N air filter
- TBI bridge removed
- 40mm throttle and intake manifold
- srd underdrive pulley
- AASCO 3kg flywheel with GTi clutch
- GTi catback
- deleted cat, now 2" ss pipe
- 14x6J ET45 BSA Racing
- Nankang AS-1 165/55-14
- 35mm lower Apex front and rear springs
- GTi sway bar
- Turbinetech underbody brace
- Ultra Racing upper strut bar

0-100kph: unknown seconds


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:45 pm 
Offline
Sad but True...

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:20 pm
Posts: 2973
Location: Saskatchewan
how much power do you think you are making or are going to make? im looking to put a new clutch on mine because once I go passed 140-150whp, it slips in 4th. you should buy this one and ill go with a stronger one

_________________
1991 Swift GT Build G10 +25 psi + other goodies
1996 Metro Build QR25de swap, still undecided where to take it
the lolcar family


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 10:45 pm
Posts: 674
Location: Millbrook, Alabama
I'll say this.

I beat a known high 15s car tonight by a 1.25 cars from 35-85. It was an 04 Mazda 3s 5speed with intake and exhaust.

I'd guess 110-115 crank.

_________________
Image
92 Metro Turbo-G13b Swap - too much stuff to list
95 Metro 4/5 Sedan - Daily Driver Status
2014 BRZ Limited in WRB - The car payment


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 10:45 pm
Posts: 674
Location: Millbrook, Alabama
Ok. Here is the 0-60 vid of the car. This was taken earlier today. If you listen closely you can hear the clutch slipping around 35mph. I don't think it is half bad for 7psi with a full tank and 60lbs of stuff in the car. It is definately faster than i had planned on at this stage.

Kyle


_________________
Image
92 Metro Turbo-G13b Swap - too much stuff to list
95 Metro 4/5 Sedan - Daily Driver Status
2014 BRZ Limited in WRB - The car payment


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:40 am
Posts: 295
Location: Hamlet , North Carolina
Dang man that thing is moveing FAST!! good build.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:34 am 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8045
Location: Ontario, Canada
z34-5speed wrote:
I put in a Walbro 255 today after finding out that i was ripped off by a guy on this site. I was told he was selling me a GTI fuel pump, instead he sold me a stock Metro pump. I was too dumb to question why the pump was the same size, so i got screwed.


Kyle


So who sold you the pump?

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 9:56 pm
Posts: 1146
Location: Saint-Jérôme, Qc
nice vid! Is that with your 15" tires? It looks faster than my car :lol:

_________________
Suzuki Gold Master Tech
'07 Suzuki SX4 JLX AWD 2.0 | Turbine Tech turbo kit @ 7psi
'08 Suzuki SX4 Sport 2.0 , average baby carrier


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 10:45 pm
Posts: 674
Location: Millbrook, Alabama

_________________
Image
92 Metro Turbo-G13b Swap - too much stuff to list
95 Metro 4/5 Sedan - Daily Driver Status
2014 BRZ Limited in WRB - The car payment


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:02 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 9:56 pm
Posts: 1146
Location: Saint-Jérôme, Qc
That's very good considering a stock mk2 Turbo3 goes in high 16s 8)


Now you need a clutch :P

_________________
Suzuki Gold Master Tech
'07 Suzuki SX4 JLX AWD 2.0 | Turbine Tech turbo kit @ 7psi
'08 Suzuki SX4 Sport 2.0 , average baby carrier


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 181 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group