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Underbody braces, turbos and more!

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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:21 am 
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I have a ton of stuff for these cars, and fix them up for others a lot. Used to be full time almost, now not as much. Now my shop is to busy to touch my own stuff, but it's finally time to build a Suzuki project again for myself!
I bought a turbo kit from Airwerks(excellent transaction, not sure if I left positive feedback way back then!) a few years ago. It's sat on my shelf ever since. I've waffled over which chassis to put it in, but finally settled on this one, mostly due to convenience(it's here and power train free!), and it's almost rust free, better than most anything that I've had here for quite a while. Its in the corner of the shop, needs all 3cyl stuff pulled off and switched to gt. List off the top of my head:
Gt swap with turbo(chipped ecu, it's tried and tested and proved reliable, as the setup was used and driven a fair bit by previous owner)
4.39 trans, gt front brakes, turbine tech brace, custom wheels, guages, gt interior.
Hoping to have the car running for the summer, won't take long, once I spend a day or two dedicated time on it.
I got lazy and have been using an h22 civic for fwd racing lately, hoping that the swift will be as fast, pretty sure it will be more fun, even if it's not technically as fast. Civic went 14.2 last year at the track. Can't go faster without more traction in that car.

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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:23 am 
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I can't seem to post a pic from my iPhone, can anyone give me a tip? Thought I could get a pic right up to show the chassis

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1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
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1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:08 pm 
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I was wondering if you ever put that setup on a car.....

I ended up with another Swift a year after I parted that car and wished I hadn't gotten rid of that setup! It ran 14.5's in a full weight 4.10 trans car so with a 4.4 and maybe putting the car on a diet I bet you will be quicker than the Honda!

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:10 pm 
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Just use Photobucket. I'm still waiting to see what I can race against this summer :-P

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:36 am 
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Not the best pic, but an idea of what I'm working on. Its a different color, Subaru bronze or something. Pretty shiny and distinctive. Has a floor and frame horns still!


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1995 Swift w/16V 4.39s, 3tech cam, Esteem t-body, Header, needs more.
1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:43 am 
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Sideways, dammit! I'm better at fixing cars than posting pics I guess...
Made some headway on this project over the weekend. Donor Gt engine is out, wiring, shifter,spindles, axles etc. Making a really big pile during the week, and attacking it on Saturday, have a friend coming who loves this stuff. An enthusiastic helping hand will make it fun instead of work.
I've only done one gt swap and I used the entire wire harness, but unfortunately I dont have the dash section from this car, a teamswifter robbed it from this one to get his vert going. I cant help but think it shouldnt be to much to wire up without it? I do have a mk3 gt I can rob dash harness from, but not sure if I should bother. Any input from those who have done it? Further, should I pull the underhood harness and use it, or just simply use the engine harness and splice and build the rest(igniter circuit/harness is likely the main difference?)

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1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:17 am 
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If you're taking the dash out, just replace the harness.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:37 am 
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That would be easy, if I had the harness from the donor car. I have a 92 that can donate its harness, but since its going into a 90, not sure if thats gonna creat more hassles. Did you finally use a gt dash harness or no? I cant remember where all that landed up on yours? I have all sorts of donors, just no 89-91 gt for the dash harness.

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1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:51 am 
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I replaced both front harnesses for my swap. The only issue I encountered was that I needed the column controls because the dash controls had a different connector.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:15 pm 
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Here ya go. It makes my neck hurt looking at your picture.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:47 am 
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Thanks! Got some shop time in last night. Cam and crank seals done. Had a recent timing belt. Valve cover gasket replaced, oil pan removed and drain back tube welded in. Drilled and tapped one bolt at back of block that hold intermediate shaft to block, was broken. I am using a good running used g13b for this initial swap. I had one in the donor that ran strong and tested at 180psi across the board. I bought rings and head gasket but think I'll just settle on getting all the rest assembled and running right now. It will do the job, this car won't get driven much once assembled anyways. Have a friend coming today for a full on swap fest which should be really productive.
Big thanks to a couple members who have answered a few of my questions on details I wasn't certain about.

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1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:07 pm 
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hit that swap hard!

if all that you have is the mk3 twincam engine wiring you can use a pin removal tool to pull the wires out of the mk3 connectors and plug them into match mk2 connectors. the wire colors didn't change and the pin connectors didn't change. only the connector housing shapes changed.

make the engine wiring match what's on the chassis.

i did my last mk2 twincam to mk3 chassis by cutting the connector wiring and soldering the mk3 connectors back onto the mk2 engine harness.

i also add the yellow wire from the oil pressure switch and graft in the ignitor wiring and the coil power wiring to the 2 conductor white oval connector on the swap chassis for the old coil. that gives you switched power and a ground connection for the ignitor wiring.

i splice in a brown wire from the noise suppressor to the loop that takes a brown wire between the ecu and the connector for the instrument cluster. that's the secret wire that allows the ecu to get a feedback signal and makes the tachometer work.

good luck. if you have any other questions i'll check this thread until you have a go.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:15 pm 
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Progress for the day: brakes swapped, engine and trans in, harness, clutch cable, throttle cable etc in, axles in. Trans mount plate built and installed, shifter and stabilizer bar in place.
Fuel pump, rad, turbo, intercooler and piping, wiring and cluster swap are biggest things left. Feels like rest is fairly basic from here. Think the wiring will be simple enough, t3 has me pointed in the right direction. Not swapping the other harness's saves a fair amount of time.

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1995 Swift w/16V 4.39s, 3tech cam, Esteem t-body, Header, needs more.
1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:48 am 
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It runs! Turbo piping not in place yet, hoping to get all that done during the next little while. Only hitch was having to repin one plug. Kept blowing fuses initially. Everything was there in the plug, just in the wrong places. Pretty excited to hear it fire up and run nice!

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1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:54 pm 
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excellent job of work, cody. :wink:

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