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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:56 pm 
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As a matter of fact, today I recieved some custom made parts to the rear suspension. I haven't been able to do anything for a while since I was waiting for these parts, and there are some welding that has to be done before I can continue with the pipework (a friend helps me with the welding).

But tomorrow I'll be trying to make some more progress, and hopefully post some pictures.

vloerdwijl:
In sweden we have the possibility to re-register a car to something called an "amateur built viechle". To make that possible you have to make a LOT of modifications (more or less like I do it). Then you have the possibility to use a turbo in cars that wasn't equipped with it from the beginning. I can also use wich wheels I want, brakes, etc, etc..


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wow, well weh can do anything whe want to a car, BUTTT there are some
very strickt regulations to that.

like:
- CO emission needs to be the same as for the car before it whas turbo'ed etc.
- you cant make any adjustments to frame of the car. ( like you did. )

Nice job on the pipes though! like the way you are engineering this. looks prof.!

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Very original project.

Keep it up :)


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Not much left until the chassie is complete. The body was removed to be able to finish up some welding.

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Stunning work, cant wait to see how it turns out.

I've got similar parts sitting at home for our race car

a SpeedwayEngineering MiniStock Quickchange rear axle with Detroit locker <150ish lbs with brakes, axles etc> that can handle 350ft/lbs torque

a BMW Getrag 265 5speed <same gearbox>

and a tubing bender and TIG/Mig waiting for an excuse to fabricate.

We're considering the same thing but bolting up a mk1 3cyl turbo instead.. the motor would look so tiny in the engine bay all on its own.

Keep up the good work


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I like the framework you made fro tubing, you've done it the right, and only way, TIG.

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Haha de finns fler svenskar här alltså!

Grymt arbete!!!

När får man se de här bygget ute på vägarna då?


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I'm curious about your plans for the front suspension now, the frame & rear look really well thought out. that's some smoooooth bending & welding of the chassis as well.

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Jimbo wrote:
Haha de finns fler svenskar här alltså!

Grymt arbete!!!

När får man se de här bygget ute på vägarna då?


Tackar :)

Jag kommer nog förhoppningsvis hinna med en provtur i år, men satsar på att vara klar nästa sommar. Du kan läsa om bilen i svensk form här: http://www.zatzy.com/showthread.php?t=159656


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n1tr0 wrote:
I'm curious about your plans for the front suspension now, the frame & rear look really well thought out. that's some smoooooth bending & welding of the chassis as well.


I only have a few more pipes to fit, and then I'll start with the front suspension. It will be a McPherson construction with fully adjustable (camber/caster) struts. I'll keep you posted ;)


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Mad mate, mad!

Love the spaceframe chassis. Awesome setup with diff as well. Sweet!

Was thinkin about doin a similar thing except as a east-west mid-mount setup for better balance. But no space and no funds at the moment so it will have to wait for while...

Keep up the good work.

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Mad mate, mad!
Was thinkin about doin a similar thing except as a east-west mid-mount setup for better balance. But no space and no funds at the moment so it will have to wait for while...

Keep up the good work.


A mid-mounted engine was concidered, but a lot of things has put that idea in second place.

First: As the seats are mounted, I would have the exhaust manifold (and the turbo) more or less put into the back of the driver seat. And as I wanted to push the seat back about 4 inches, it just wouldn't be possible.

Second: This has not much to do with the handling, but I just think that the engine looks better under the ordinay hood. And as a matter of fact, now I can reach it alot easier.

Third: At this time when I have had the opportunity to weight balance the body, chassie, and all parts, I can see that I will get quit close to 50/50 balance through front/rear axles.


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Heey runbag, saw you dyno sheet, looks allmost TOO nice!

How did you get such a nice curve? done it yourself in exel or what? :lol:

No, just a joke,.... looks good menn. Keep up the goodwork.

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vloerdwijl wrote:
Heey runbag, saw you dyno sheet, looks allmost TOO nice!

How did you get such a nice curve? done it yourself in exel or what? :lol:

No, just a joke,.... looks good menn. Keep up the goodwork.


Well, yes you're right. From the dyno I only got numbers, so to get an graphic view I made a diagram in excel.


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thought so,..... but it still looks nice... :!:

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I let the pictures speak for themselves :)

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I've also managed to find som styling to the car :)

Taillights.
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i love those taillights :) makes ur MK1 stand out even more because almost nobody has them Image

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Wow amazing, any update ? :P

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what are your plans for the front suspension/steering?

it dosn't look like there is alot of room for a steering rack up front.

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Hi fellows,

Runbag: Could you post some updates??? Maybe the same thing that is in this topic http://www.zatzy.com/showthread.php?t=1 ... e=11&pp=20 on zatzy.com

The drawing + some comments to it ;) And the other pics too :)

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Allright then :)

I'll try to explain how I've done to make sure that the wheels are correctly aligned to each other, and to the chassie. If there is something that does'n make sence, it's just because I might have some problem to describe it in english ;)

Shown at the picture below are:
The wheels in black.
My "magical plates" that are measured into right position and welded into the constructon frame in red.
Measuring lines in orange.
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I made sure that all parallel lines are equal to each other, and that the crossing lines also are equal. To do so, I know that the wheels not are placed into a rhomb.

The plates makes it easy to adjust the struts, and they also holds them with the right height to the body. With a guiding plate cut in 88 degrees I automatically got the camber set to 2 degrees.
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The struts could then easily be mounted in place, and the only thing left to do was to make some measuring to get the right caster, and finaly weld the top mounting plate into place. Now it's also wery easy to constuct the lower control arms since the spindle sit's all tight.
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Top adjustable mounting is in place, and some more pipes will be fit to hold it tight.
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These laser cut pieces is meant to be the mounting point for the lower control arms (will be welded into the chassie).
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mac wrote:
what are your plans for the front suspension/steering?

it dosn't look like there is alot of room for a steering rack up front.


As you can see at the previous pics, the suspension is a mac pherson style.

Please let me get back to you about the steering, since I think I can descibe it better with pictures when it's done.


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i think i just came :oops:


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virgin style? :lol:

okey... back on track.

Looks nice, good job of enginering and machining/ welding skill.

Do you all do this yourself? or are you getting help from someone?

shit load of work..... that's wy i'm asking...... :wink:

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