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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:42 pm 
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I will do an experiment with honda D series piston.

You will see step by step, what i've done in attachment

Waiting for advice and your comment


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Standard piston (non JDM version)


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Honda D series high compression piston


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:06 pm 
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another pic honda


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:14 pm 
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Almost forgot, this experiment is on g13b DOHC

next picture will be upload soon


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What D series piston is that??

Are they are D16Z6
75.5 mm piston size (+.020"/ +0.5 mm)
10.5CR
for the Honda Civic

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moylee19 wrote:
What D series piston is that??

Are they are D16Z6
75.5 mm piston size (+.020"/ +0.5 mm)
10.5CR
for the Honda Civic

Thanks
Simon


talk to tekkie simon he has them in his engine at the moment. not sure which exact ones but they are definitely in there!

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You betcha he does! Hi Gus!

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:07 am 
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Piston pins, The honda uses a pressed pin, the suzuki uses a floating pin.

The best bet is to machine the honda piston for C-Clip grooves so you have a floating piston < better then pressed>

Or you have a steel bushing custom made for the upper end of the suzuki con rod. Get the old bronze bushing pressed out. The steel bushing fit in, TIG < tack welded> an then have small end machined < Honda D series run .002 skrink fit. Then either machine the small end of the suzuki rod narrower, or machine the inside of the honda piston out wider, so the wider suzuki rod can fit into the piston.

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Them pistons pictured must be stock bore < 75mm > for the D16A1 or the JDM ZC engine < we never got the honda ZC, only the Acura D16A1 engine here>

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:31 am 
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moylee19 wrote:
What D series piston is that??

Are they are D16Z6
75.5 mm piston size (+.020"/ +0.5 mm)
10.5CR
for the Honda Civic

Thanks
Simon


It says from D13 engine.

It has mark STD that means standard => 75 mm

It has Brand " JPN ART "


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:17 am 
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More pic added


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So... I can't see any of these pics... What's the progress?


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So, the progress is stuck. I got damaged engine after running in about 500 km.

The engine smoke, after overhaul the engine again I got serious failure in piston wrist pin caused i made it custom.

Boring nr.2 is totaled.

Let me think again to continue the experiment....


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Do you know what happened to your pin and circlip? Did the clip come out?

Have you guys heard of piston buttons? They are sometimes used instead of clips. Racers sometimes prefer them because they won't cause engine damage.

I'd like to use some too, but I'm not sure of the measurement process. It seems it might be cheaper than machining custom pistons with circlip grooves, but I don't know. I would be more reliable though!!! I guess that is worth the money.

Here's a pdf file that shows the button....
http://www.ariaspistons.com/products/Arias.hardware.pdf


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I don't remember honda making a 1.3? (d13)


The d16 pistons were machined and run in a g16 (sidekick) motor right? Anyone know of valve to piston issues running the dohc head?


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That's a tough question. I think it might be easier to take a piston to the machine shop and say.... "make my new piston look like this one."

I have no idea where to find valve specs. :(


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Zuk named Stitch wrote:
I don't remember honda making a 1.3? (d13)


The d16 pistons were machined and run in a g16 (sidekick) motor right? Anyone know of valve to piston issues running the dohc head?


there was a d13 engine in EJ civic 92-95 on carb making 75 hp, nice engine not powerful but due to very small stroke like to rev a lot up to 9000 RPM

about the pistons , have a set from d16a6 but the pin is different size( smaller) , also its not a floating pin ( has no clips ) , piston is a bit higher and have smaller gaps for valves

so are all honda pistons require machine work on the pin ? have another d15 engine to look for pistons but to lazy to take them out :razz:

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