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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:11 am 
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So, Im very tired, and and I got to thinking....

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I remember my father telling me stories of boreing Chevy 350 engines into 400s and such. ...So that got my wheels turning.
(Please understand that I know nothing of this and Im just curious...)

If you have a 1.0l 3 cyl, could your turn it into a 1.3 3 cyl by "boreing" each cylinder by .1 (<--But I dont know what .1 would be... :roll: )?.

Just thought I would envoke the flameing wrath of the moderators upon my feeble rice boy ideas... :-P

But seriously, somebody correct my logic here.
I just thought it was a cool idea.


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It's not your retarded idea that will result into flaming, its your constant spelling of 'boreing' and 'flameing'.

You know, sometimes the E gets dropped.

Jus letting you know in advance.

Anyways, I think it sounds like a great idea and you should start it right now, just put your sanding tool on your dremel and get to work on those piston sleeves. I'm sure after a few hours you'll have it done, and ready to give us the HP results. Seriously.

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The old school V8s have a lot of displacement on their side. 1.3 L (1298 cc) Suzuki engine works out to only 79.2 cubic inches. Keep in mind that it's an inline 4, not a V8, so there isn't as much cylinder wall material to give way to make more piston displacment. I don't feel like looking up the math, but you're just not gonna get a 1.0 to bore out to a 1.3 (unless you like cylinder walls that are as thick as pop cans).

Hey! do you want a rank of "Feeble Riceboy"? :poke:
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With a 77mm stroke you would need 84.5mm pistons to achive 1297 cc... standard bore is 74mm (thats 0.41338583 of an inch difference)

that would be right on the cylinder wall not the sleeves

there is heap of tech on hot rodding the g10, use it :razz:

(insidently i am trying to find a oem rod and piston combo that will give me 76mm bore and even then i may be pushing it :P :lol: :? )

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I remember my father telling me stories of boreing Chevy 350 engines into 400s and such

Your dad is lying to you.
You can't do it.
The popular big bore mod, in the day, was to bore a 283 block (the only blocks that could handle this much overbore), .125"(3mm) from 3 7/8" to 4".
With the 3" stroke, it would give you screaming 302.
GM did the same thing for the early Z28.

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...unless dear old dad was using raw GM bowtie blocks that came with a semi-finished 3.990 bore, and were cast to accept the 400's 4.125 bore...or more!

Back to the Suzuki 3 however...the bore spacing of this engine is only 84mm as I recall...and with it's open deck design, you would probably find it unreliable to bore/sleeve it anything above 77mm.

Better go with the 1.3 4 cylinder...it runs so much smoother!

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Or he was stroking them to some different displacement too....

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unless dear old dad was using raw GM bowtie blocks that came with a semi-finished 3.990 bore, and were cast to accept the 400's 4.125 bore


Which would still only give you 372 cubic inches :wink:

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i made a stroker motor by putting a 350 crank in a 327. :wink:


(i am guessing superfly will be the one to figure it out. :lol: )

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Don't even try that on me.
350
I was Mr small block 20yrs before I was the f1y 8)
Thats was part of the beauty of working on sm blk chevs.
The interchangeability.
What combo made the 307, and why would you jump at one if you could?

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suprf1y wrote:
What combo made the 307, and why would you jump at one if you could?


a 283 stroked a quarter of an inch.

i rip the crank out and make a 327.

my buddy uses that stroke in a 400 block to make a 358 incher good for just a hair over 750 hp on their 360 sprint. :D

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Because it has a 327 crank, Superfly!!!!!
How do you think I made my mutt 327?
307 crank, 350 rods, 327 pistons, fits in a large main journal 350 block.

What about this one, flyboy? Mid nineties 4.3L V8 crank from a caprice, into a late model 350 LT-1? New school tech, old school style 302, Z28 style. Rev to the sky, boys. Even better with 6 inch rods! 2 to 1 rod to stroke ratio.[/b]

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Mid nineties 4.3L V8 crank from a caprice


No mid nineties Chev that I know of had a 4.3 V8
If I recall, the 262 (75-76) had a 3.1 stroke, and the 267 (79-92) had the same stroke as the 350.
I would use neither crank comfotably in a high performance small block.

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hhm...... I seek forgivEness for the use of E's... I was very tired.

But anyways, it sounded like a cool idea.... lol... ya know...

kinda like a 1.3 DOHC turbo 3 cylinder...... or a new PS3 on release day....

or a tree that $20's fall from.....


just things that trigger drooling and lusting.... :jerkit:


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actually they did have that engine. it was called the L99 i think??

i remember the stroke was 3.0" and the bore was from the 305.

swap the crank to a 350 for a lt1 302 !

but i think a 383 lt1 would be cooler. even cooler if you could come up with a 400 lt1.

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how about a 1L DOHC turbo3 ...

oh the evilness.

someone have a TIG i could borrow for a couple months?

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tuffcarguy wrote:
actually they did have that engine. it was called the L99 i think??

i remember the stroke was 3.0" and the bore was from the 305.

swap the crank to a 350 for a lt1 302 !
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8)

Find me evidence of this motor. I've never seen it.

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how about a 1L DOHC turbo3 ...

oh the evilness.

someone have a TIG i could borrow for a couple months?

Got a 400A tig machine with your name all over it..
I still have those cams in my trunk for the DOHC 3cyl project.
I'm just waiting for you guys :wink:

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sportage4x4 wrote:
how about a 1L DOHC turbo3 ...

oh the evilness.

someone have a TIG i could borrow for a couple months?



Got Evil? :twisted:

http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=23246&start=0


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i know "weak"ipedia isnt that reliable but here is a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LT_engi ... .284.3L.29

i just googled "L99 caprice"

got alot of forum talk.

http://forums.4adrive.com/t2055-s.html?

typed in "l99 caprice specs" and got some better choices.

http://www.kitcarusa.com/kb.php?aid=59

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/ ... urce18.asp

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ford has a small block too you know. the 289s also are one of the highest revving small blocks fords ever churned outta detroit. imagine a 347 stroker 302 in a geo metro? just the torque alone...woahh.


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