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 Post subject: horse power? g16b
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:02 am 
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I'm curious how much power could the g16b N/A produce?

What's your opinion to stick with the g13b or go with the g16b?

The car is a swift GTi 1990.

I'm definetly sticking to an N/A setup and don't know what engine to start building.

The setup would be something like this: cams, underdrive pulley (custom), cam gears alu, suzuki rd header, rest of the exhaust hand made (curious about fi), hand made intake manifold (what size throtle body?), head job will see what to do with the head(consult with someone), high compresion pistons (probaly from rd or something), flywheel lighter and balanced, crank balanced and sharpend edges, rods balanced, and for now itwould be just a serial ecu with the tom's rally chip. And thats about it what i have in mind.

g13b or g16b??

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16 valve G16- 95hp @ 6000rpm & 99 torque @ 3000rpm
8 valve G16- 80hp & 95 torque, not sure of the rpm points

G13B- 100hp and 83 torque, again not sure of the rpm. My educated guess says the HP and Torque peaks are much higher.

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 Post subject: Re: horse power? g16b
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:31 am 
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ZG-GTI-7 wrote:
I'm curious how much power could the g16b N/A produce?


In Australia, someone got 150whp from a G16B with ITBs, and full NA mods (cams, head, pistons, rods). Talk to gusgti. He knows best.

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2 shconer: did you dynothe car before the mods?

2 caaarlo: thanks! I'll send him a pm

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I did not dyno before the mods because the engine had 210000
km on it and had a blown head gasket and worn out piston rings. I replaced the head gasket as well as ARP head studs, re-ringed the pistons, and new bearings and did the mods at the same time.


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So what's your opinion g13 or g16?

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G13 + G16 Head.

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Caaarlo wrote:
G13 + G16 Head.


Why the g16 head?

Did you mean g16block & g13b head?
I've read somewhere on team swift that the g13b head has better flow. I'm confused pls help. :oops:

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well I am doing the 1.6 block with 1.3 gti head, simply for the reason my powerband is to be much lower in the rpms, and the stroked version of the 1.3 fits the bill quite nicely to supercharge


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Caaarlo wrote:
G13 + G16 Head.


I like this idea. 16v sohc head (from the g16) flows better than the dohc one. The sohc head has bigger intake valves and beter exhaust flow throug the ports.

The down side: You can't play with the timing on the intake and exhaus separately.


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in my case, my head work will consist of a mild pnp and a 1mm oversize valve job (stock size in 1.6) and ill have better tuning


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Caaarlo wrote:
G13 + G16 Head.


you can re-use the G16B EFI system, or do you have too to transplant ECU and injection system from the G13B ?


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matuva wrote:
Caaarlo wrote:
G13 + G16 Head.


you can re-use the G16B EFI system, or do you have too to transplant ECU and injection system from the G13B ?


There is no place for the stock ECU in a 150whp cammed G13, but you can keep the rest.

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