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Author:  BOOMbox [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  question about 1.6 blocks

Are all G16 blocks the same?
Such as samurai, sidekick, tracker, and esteem?

Author:  G-sus [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:49 pm ]
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There are two - G16A and G16B, but I haven't found out the difference myself :mrgreen: I have a G16A in mine

Author:  BOOMbox [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about 1.6 blocks

Oh alright. Thanks. Anymore input guys?

Author:  G-sus [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:36 pm ]
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I just browsed a bit and found this:
mzeeshan wrote:
the basic difference is that g16a has a cast iron block

while g16b has aluminium block


But mine's a g16a and it sure didn't look iron to me :lol: So as far as I'm concerned, the blocks are the same, the internals might be different though :roll:

Author:  BOOMbox [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:18 pm ]
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Haha wow. That's definitely a bit of helpful info. I browsed through the threads and found out that the internal dimensions are different.

Author:  G-sus [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:44 pm ]
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BOOMbox wrote:
Haha wow. That's definitely a bit of helpful info. I browsed through the threads and found out that the internal dimensions are different.


Your guess is as good as mine :mrgreen:

Author:  BOOMbox [ Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:05 pm ]
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Haha alright I appreciate the help.

Author:  DeTune [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:46 am ]
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All G-Series and J-Series and I think M-Series engines are full aluminum.

I think the difference between the A & B is the original compression and amount of valves the original head carries. I could be wrong

Author:  G-sus [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:56 am ]
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DeTune wrote:
All G-Series and J-Series and I think M-Series engines are full aluminum.

I think the difference between the A & B is the original compression and amount of valves the original head carries. I could be wrong


Interesting. I think vitaras have a 1.6 8v, maybe I'll check if it's a b if I have an opportunity.

Author:  droppedtracker [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:51 am ]
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G-sus wrote:
DeTune wrote:
All G-Series and J-Series and I think M-Series engines are full aluminum.

I think the difference between the A & B is the original compression and amount of valves the original head carries. I could be wrong


Interesting. I think vitaras have a 1.6 8v, maybe I'll check if it's a b if I have an opportunity.


the earlier trackers came with the 1.6l 8v, while the newer ones had the 1.6l 16v engines. there easy to tell apart the 8v had the black valve cover while the 16v had the grey cover with 16v written on it.

Author:  BOOMbox [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:55 pm ]
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Oh alright guys. I have read that compression is different between a and b.
So is it a possibility that the amount of valves is the difference also?

Author:  G-sus [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:11 pm ]
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BOOMbox wrote:
Oh alright guys. I have read that compression is different between a and b.
So is it a possibility that the amount of valves is the difference also?


Could be, can't be for sure before checking, but if you happen to come by a 1.6 with a black rocker cover and it says G16B on the block, then most likely yes :wink:

EDIT: hold on, just found this.

Quote:
G16A

single over-head cam aprox. 96 hp 16 valve SOHC EPI after 1993 and 8 valve SOHC Carb;and 8 valve SOHC EPI before 1993


I'm a bit confused right now, mine's a 1990 and it's a G16A sohc 16v carb. Also the G16A was used in both 1989-2001 Vitara 8V (First gen.)
and 1992-1994 Vitara 16V, so they're both A's, but the G16B was used in the 94 Suzuki Vitara 16V. Well that's just straight confusing :|

Author:  BOOMbox [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:01 pm ]
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Haha wow that is confusing!

Author:  DeTune [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:28 am ]
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Well then A & B could refer to the era of the engine....The latter 1600s came with fully counterweighted cranks and the earliers didn't. This is what an 8v cover looks like:-
Image

And 16v
Image

Author:  G-sus [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:08 am ]
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DeTune wrote:
Well then A & B could refer to the era of the engine....The latter 1600s came with fully counterweighted cranks and the earliers didn't. This is what an 8v cover looks like:-
Image

And 16v
Image


There's also the baleno 1.6

Image

Author:  droppedtracker [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:42 am ]
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G-sus wrote:
DeTune wrote:
Well then A & B could refer to the era of the engine....The latter 1600s came with fully counterweighted cranks and the earliers didn't. This is what an 8v cover looks like:-
Image

And 16v
Image


There's also the baleno 1.6

Image



In the us there is the 1.6l Suzuki esteem also.

Author:  G-sus [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:23 pm ]
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droppedtracker wrote:
In the us there is the 1.6l Suzuki esteem also.


esteem and baleno are the same cars

Author:  Rhinoman [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:15 pm ]
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G16A came in early 16V engines, later 16V engines were g16B, I have an 8V Vitara from 2000 and that is still a G16A engine.

Author:  BOOMbox [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:55 pm ]
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Ahhh ok that makes more sense.

Author:  suprf1y [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:32 am ]
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BOOMbox wrote:
I browsed through the threads and found out that the internal dimensions are different.


Which dimensions are different?

Author:  DeTune [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:08 am ]
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droppedtracker wrote:
G-sus wrote:
DeTune wrote:
Well then A & B could refer to the era of the engine....The latter 1600s came with fully counterweighted cranks and the earliers didn't. This is what an 8v cover looks like:-
Image

And 16v
Image


There's also the baleno 1.6

Image


In the us there is the 1.6l Suzuki esteem also.


The newer vitaras also came with similar engine with the coil packs etc

Author:  BOOMbox [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:24 pm ]
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The cylinder head volume, valve diameters, minimum combustion volume, and compression ratio seem to be different. :roll:

Author:  suprf1y [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:40 pm ]
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None of those have anything to do with the block.

Author:  BOOMbox [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:23 am ]
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Yea I know. I understand that. I was just stating differences between the engines.

Author:  VR4 [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:02 am ]
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BOOMbox wrote:
The cylinder head volume, valve diameters, minimum combustion volume, and compression ratio seem to be different. :roll:

Not surprising considering one is an 8v and one is a 16v cyl head...

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